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American Coot

by Mia McPherson

Gallery: AvianPosted December 14, 2009141 views21 comments
Fulica americana

From my previous Tricolored Heron post:
My next several posts will have sort of a theme going. Else where on the web I have seen some posts that I found interesting but several people who critiqued the images have talked about having the head angle 2 degrees this way or three degrees another. I've pondered those critiques and personally there are times when I think different head angles; even those that do not show the "perfect head turn" can be very compelling images.

So I thought I would post a few of my photos where the head angle isn't perfect but where I find that I like the images despite the lack of direct eye contact. I am curious about what you think of these so please let me know.
In this image the head angle might not be considered ideal, there is no direct eye contact or catchlight in the eye but I still feel that this is a compelling and interesting image because of the head angle and the bird's pose. I have more images of this coot where the head angle would be considered "better" but they do not have the same effect on me that this one does.

D200, on Gitzo CF tripod, Black Widow head, F7.1, 1/500, ISO 250, 200-400mm VR with 1.4x TC at 400mm, 55% of original image, natural light.

This was taken at a nearby neighborhood pond, the background reflection on the water consists of mixed phragmites, dirt banks and snow covered ground. I'll also post a small version of a vertical crop.

As always, I sincerely appreciate your comments & critiques, thank you for looking and for indulging me with this theme.

Comments

21 comments
Comment posted by Mia McPherson on December 14, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Here is the vertical comp. It is 35% of the original image.
Registered on June 25, 2007, 491 Posts, 12566 Comments
Comment posted by Luke Ormand on December 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Very Ian Mason like..... I love how this coot has the red spot on the top of the beak - I don't get to see that around here and the water is sillllky smooooooth. I think this head angle is perfect and I don't care much about catchlight when you have a colored eye that stands out from the body like this. It's a totally different story when it's a bird with a black head and a black eye which is easily lost without that twinkle.

I also prefer the original to the cropped.

- Luke
Registered on February 4, 2009, 1093 Posts, 7035 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Bielefeld on December 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Mia, I like the image. The pose is fine with me and I love the water. I like the vert comp because of the parts of the water it isolates. Very nice.
Registered on December 6, 2008, 360 Posts, 7132 Comments
Comment posted by Michael Ramos on December 14, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I really like the 1st comp. the detail and exposure on the coot itself is excelent as usual in your images I have to agree with you about the "head turn point".

Sometime people want to see "studio type" Images on wild birds,this will be ideal but very dificult to achieve congrats on this spectacular Image Lia. :toast:
Registered on December 24, 2008, 43 Posts, 281 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Saunders on December 14, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Ian, call your lawyer now ! :razz: No seriously , there are comparisons in style , but it has its own little stamp on it.
I can't make my mind up which crop I prefer..I think I'm leaning towards to original, because of the cool effects in the water at the top left of the photo.
I'm all for different head angles as long as the bird isn't facing the other way ! :toast:
Registered on February 6, 2008, 321 Posts, 3035 Comments
Comment posted by Cheryl Molennor on December 14, 2009 at 8:12 PM
I Like it.. alot
Registered on June 30, 2009, 300 Posts, 5051 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Dudley on December 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Mia, Excellent exposure, I like the water running down the breast and I really love that water!

I also find the pose appealing, even without the traditional head turn. I think you've got a great idea here - to explore some other venues. Perhaps we sometimes get caught up in what is "expected" at the expense of some other perfectly viable options. I will follow your series with interest.
Registered on March 30, 2007, 437 Posts, 10915 Comments
Comment posted by Brian Gatlin on December 14, 2009 at 10:13 PM
this is an amazing image. The water is simply spectacular. Personally, I really like the bird's pose--it's very moody. I like the reflection and how just enough of the red eye is visible. I prefer the horizontal crop. outstanding work. :toast:
Registered on March 21, 2009, 202 Posts, 4187 Comments
Comment posted by David Sparks on December 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Mia:
I prefer the original version because the interesting water that Ron B. sees surrounding the bird is truncated in the vertical crop and I like the continuation of water in the horizontal version. The unusual head position is not disconcerting because we do see the one red eye (as Luke mentioned) and because the head is further defined in the reflection. The water trickles on the breast add a lot. Exposure is perfect.
Registered on May 26, 2007, 290 Posts, 4270 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Gulash on December 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM
It's good of you to bring up a though provoking series like this. I don't have much access to marshes, sadly, and have few coot photos and nothing of this calibre. I prefer the first post by far. I often think about how birds look when they are engaged in their normal activities and what evolutionary advantage this may have. Presenting a bird photo with an atypical pose helps us to appreciate another aspect of their appearance we may not otherwise see. In this case I just noticed the prominent brown area at the top of the bill, a far more detailed view than I have ever seen. :toast:
Registered on January 28, 2005, 879 Posts, 12098 Comments
Comment posted by Floyd Hopper on December 15, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Great nature image. It well represents the coot in its environment.
Registered on May 1, 2009, 652 Posts, 762 Comments
Comment posted by Jim DeWitt on December 15, 2009 at 2:12 AM
I can't add much to what others have said. The water in the first post is so photogenic that I think the first image is stronger. It takes real skill to make a common bird - and the ivory-billed mud sucker is an extremely common bird - interesting. And your exploration of head angles has done that.
Registered on August 28, 2006, 1240 Posts, 8506 Comments
Comment posted by Andy Astbury on December 15, 2009 at 3:28 AM
Superb colour and tonal graduation in this image Mia - difficult bird to get right and you have absolutely nailed it "good and proper" - very good job :toast:

First version is the one I like best - perhaps I might have done the comp with the Coot slightly higher in the frame, but it's a stunner as it is.

Don't regard direct eye contact as a 'must' - it's always nicer to see images of wildlife "doing stuff that wildlife does" - this means that they are not looking at the camera. But you still need to see an eye clearly, it's never really easy to achieve but well worth persevering with as you will end up with some real crackers.

Top class image Mia :wavey: :wavey:
Registered on January 11, 2007, 28 Posts, 257 Comments
Comment posted by Simon Bennett on December 15, 2009 at 4:09 AM
I prefer vertical (perhaps a bit less centred), gorgeous water, nice moody coot as well.
Registered on February 4, 2007, 350 Posts, 4614 Comments
Comment posted by Rob Drummond on December 15, 2009 at 6:14 AM
Nice one Mia - I like like both formats and you've done a great job with the exposure

cheers
Rob
Registered on November 8, 2003, 617 Posts, 8267 Comments
Comment posted by Monica Siri on December 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Hi Mia,
an interesting pose and excellent exposure. Really nice images!! :toast:
Registered on September 20, 2009, 132 Posts, 3764 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Colvin on December 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Hi Mia,
I fully agree with your views. I prefer the first image because the water is flattering to the main subject and it shows more of it. I haven't noticed the color at the top of the bill on coots before this image. I like this shot.

Tony
Registered on December 2, 2009, 15 Posts, 93 Comments
Comment posted by Ian Mason on December 15, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Mia - I prefer the second post, which I think is outstanding. I agree wholly with the idea of different approaches and this works very well indeed. I also agree that placing the bird a little more off-centre to the right and higher would be nice. Our coots don't have that red parking light on the bill :wink:
Registered on December 14, 2005, 399 Posts, 2305 Comments
Comment posted by Kirk Greene on December 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Thanks for the last 2 post and for demonstrating how "perfect" head angle is simple a guide and not a rule. Both of the images you have posted prove your point IMO. This coot is excellent in it's own right and has a very calm, soothing feel to it thanks in part to the bird's pose and in part to the silky smooth water.
Registered on May 12, 2004, 191 Posts, 1578 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on December 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I like this a lot as a horizontal. A very peaceful image - the sort of shot that could hang on the wall for a long time without getting boring.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Leggett on December 16, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Mia, I like the comp of the original as framed (maybe my "rule of thirds" brain talking here). All that sweet flow of BG water color makes it far better for me than the tighter vertical, which for me seems cramped, but then that's composition options being factored in along with my subjective personal preference. I've never seen that lobe on the top of the bill on the local coots - maybe I've not noticed it before. Fine work as usual.
Registered on July 21, 2004, 706 Posts, 3233 Comments