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Red Nebula
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Red Nebula

by Pat Sampson

Gallery: FloraPosted August 27, 20101,891 views46 comments
Another hibiscus image. Hope to get some black and whites later today.

This is a two image stack and I would have had the f/stop somewhere around f/8. I mostly used LR 3 gradients in post processing but also used Viveza and PS to introduce more bg blur.
In the past I haven't sharpened my jpegs again as I create them but in this case I used NPNer's Andreas Resch's Photoshop sharpening script. I liked the functionality and control it provides. If you would, see what you think of the sharpness in the image - the center of course, the petals aren't supposed to be sharp. (smile)

Nikon D700
Zeiss 50 mm
2 image stack near or at F/8
Helicon Focus, RAW, ISO 100, Lightroom III, the entire NIK studio of applications except the HDR product, CS5, MacBook Pro 17, tripod, rail, release.

Comments and suggestions welcome.

Pat

Comments

46 comments
Comment posted by Patricia Brundage on August 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Rich glorious reds and tack sharp center. Masterfully done. :toast:
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Comment posted by Ramamohan Pai on August 27, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Awesome :toast:
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Comment posted by Brigitte Lorenz on August 27, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Amazing!!!!

Brigitte
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Comment posted by Carol Hyman on August 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Oh, Pat. Another jewel. I think I like this even better in color than I did in the black and white version. The petals are dreamy. The sharpening looks good. If you have the time, would you do a small crop at 100%. I would so appreciate. I'll have to check out Andreas' script to see what it's based on.

Thanks,

Carol
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Comment posted by Balakumar Kaushik on August 27, 2010 at 1:42 PM
This is amazing ! Loved the softness in the petals and the glow in it.
Lovely lighting. Might darken the right-mid regions (in the petals) to match it with left half. But that's just my tastes :)

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Comment posted by Bob&Charly Nelson on August 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM
OH MY! Beyond words wonderful Pat. :toast: :toast:
Bob :wavey:
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Comment posted by Ian Wolfenden on August 27, 2010 at 1:53 PM
An absolutely remarkable image, Pat !! Words fail me - it just could not be better.
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Comment posted by Bob Duff on August 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM
W :eek: W. Excellent Pat in every way.
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Comment posted by Mark Windom on August 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Wow! One of the best I've seen on this forum in awhile....and that's saying alot with the talent this place has. The color, contrast, detail, and particularly the BG are terrific.

When you use a rail with Helicon in mind are you focussing by moving the camera along the rail or by turning the focussing ring on the lens?? And, which rail are you using?

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Comment posted by Morris McClung on August 27, 2010 at 2:57 PM
So you really want us to look at the stamen then? :biggrin: Masterful work, Pat! A glorious piece of art.
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Comment posted by Nathan Buck on August 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Excellent Pat! Great rich colors, and I love what the blur has done for the shot. Really fabulous.

Nathan
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Comment posted by Bill Fach on August 27, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Pat: Jaw dropping spectacular IMO. Masterful presentation. >=))>
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Comment posted by Mike Reid on August 27, 2010 at 3:40 PM
love it....like velvet or a nebula.... :cool:
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Comment posted by Andreas Resch on August 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM
Awesome shot, Pat and what a great sharpness you've got here ;)
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Comment posted by Soubhik Patranabis on August 27, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Wow - this is great !
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Comment posted by beth summer on August 27, 2010 at 4:56 PM
Spellbinding...mesmerizing...alien...very awesome!!!
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Comment posted by Luke Ormand on August 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Fantastic DOF and PP it really is out of this world but I think this is more photo-art than flora.
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Comment posted by Vincent Nobel on August 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Very surreal Pat! A most excellent creation! :toast:
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Comment posted by Martin Bartsch on August 27, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Inspiring...

:toast:
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Comment posted by Gary Yeoh on August 27, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Got your signature all over this image. Just simply outstanding. The center is tack sharp and the blur in the petals has a galactic look, thus aptly titled. :toast:
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Comment posted by Miro Susta on August 27, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Excellent focus on the center. Glorious colours. Beautifully done Pat. :wavey:
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Comment posted by Pat Sampson on August 27, 2010 at 9:14 PM
Thanks for the kind comments you all. I appreciate them.

Mark,

I'm using the Kirk macro focusing rail and am very pleased with it. I've got it mounted on a RRS BH 40 ball head which I'm also very pleased with. I use the rail to find my starting place for the series of images going into the stack but then I use the manual focus ring on the Zeiss to move the plane of focus through the subject. I've tried doing the movement using the rail but Helicon creates more artifacts for me that way, so I've gone back to the manual focus ring. The Zeiss lenses are particularly well suited to the process in that they provide very precise focusing control manually.

Luke,

I did consider posting this in Photo Art but decided I hadn't done enough with it to justify placing it there. My reason for considering it was the blur I introduced on the petals but given the quality and nature of the manipulations I see in that gallery I decided that the gaussian and mid grey additions didn't warrant it. I view dodging and burning with gradients as pretty tame stuff. Regardless of where it's at, I'm glad you like the image. Thank you very much for the comment.

Pat

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Comment posted by Bruce King on August 27, 2010 at 9:28 PM
Wow! the center is incredibly sharp, I love what you did with the entire image. Beautiful abstract. I do have a "what if". What if you moved slightly to the left and up, placing the red balls (sorry I'm really not up on plant anatomy, at least not yet) more symetrically around the yellow part? Just a thought, it's excellent as is. :toast:

I might have to check out Andreas' technique. How do I find it?
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Comment posted by Albert Darmo on August 27, 2010 at 9:49 PM
Hi Pat :wavey: Behind in my comments, because my lovely 6year old grand daughter is spending her last days, with us...... before school starts next week. :smile: your hibiscus pistil reminds me of gold and ruby emerald jewellery on a velvet gown. Breathtakingly beautiful :toast:
Albert Darmo.. Canada
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Comment posted by Pat Sampson on August 27, 2010 at 9:50 PM
Bruce,

I actually shot some like that. The reason that I moved down and over was to put more of the yellow column in the image. I did hate giving up the symmetry but thought I got a little better sense of depth in the image by introducing the off center point of view. I still want to do one the other way but when I do, I'll take the whole flower in focus. Thank you for the comment and suggestion.


Andreas' script is in the digital gallery with a date near mid August. It's on the first page about a third of the way down.

Pat
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Comment posted by Craig Strand on August 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Absolutely beautiful Pat, vibrant colors and your excellent capture and processing!
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Comment posted by Muhammad Zaid Wani on August 28, 2010 at 12:14 AM
Superb image!

:toast:
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Comment posted by Mauro Pasquero on August 28, 2010 at 4:16 AM
Terrific shot, Pat :toast: :toast: You are really a master in going beyond the pure beauty of Nature... :wink:
Sooner or later I'll try the stacking job. :wavey:
Mauro
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Comment posted by Ellen deBoer on August 28, 2010 at 6:37 AM
Great work, Pat! Very well chosen title, the centre of the flower indeed seems to be floating in space. :toast:
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Comment posted by Paul Marcellini on August 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Wonderful color and mood. And the mix of sharp/blur is perfect!
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Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on August 28, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Nice work, Pat, both in the field and in the darkroom.

Now this is probably an idiotic and insulting question, given all your work to create this beautiful and evocative image... But... wouldn't it be easier to choose a different aperture or (gad!) try a Lensbaby?? Easy isn't always as fun though. And I expect that all this was done for "just that certain look" that you are getting well known for.
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Comment posted by Pat Sampson on August 28, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Catherine,

An interesting and amusing question. I don't have a Lensbaby. My plan as I shot this was to get a sharp center all the way through the yellow and a bg that wouldn't just be a red wash but would show some detail. To do that I probably should have done a stack of five or six images at f/5.6. or less. I misjudged the amount of detail in the bg - when I looked at the little screen on the back of the camera. (smile) When I got the two image stack merged and started looking at it on a real monitor, I realized I needed to soften the bg. It's not like a had a definite idea of what I wanted though. I just played with it until I got something I liked. To be honest, i've never done an image where I knew up front exactly what I wanted. I may have a general plan like I did here but certainly no idea what the final image is supposed to look like. I wish I did. I admire those who have that kind of imagination. I don't. (smile)

Pat
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Comment posted by Ken Smith on August 29, 2010 at 1:19 AM
Super shot, Pat! My vote for a new category 'Audience' Pick of the week...this is an early nomination submittal....ha! Gotta have some way to acknowledge the shots of the forum editors.
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Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on August 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM
Right, Pat. Gotcha. Thanks for addressing my question. I know you work hard in the darkroom and just as here come up with such amazing creations. I like to do that too, and enjoy it very much, but haven't invested in all the software such as Helicon and Nik. Hat's off to you. Exceptional image in every way.
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Comment posted by Daniel & Loana on August 29, 2010 at 6:38 AM
Wonderful shot!

Congrats

D&L
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Comment posted by Elisabeth Czwikla on August 29, 2010 at 9:15 PM
very dramatic image!
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Comment posted by Doug Benner on August 30, 2010 at 8:12 AM
Outstanding, Pat. Creative and striking composition.
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Comment posted by May Haga on August 30, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Eye popping Pat.
May
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Comment posted by Lucy VanSwearingen on August 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Wonderful, it looks like red velvet.
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Comment posted by Steven M Kahn on August 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM
Pat, fantastic! I think your title is right on! Out of this world! Looks like an image from Revelations. :toast:
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Comment posted by Benjamin Olson on August 31, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Beautifully done! :toast:
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Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on September 2, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Sucks you in. Wonderful. One of the best flora images I've seen.
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Comment posted by Marco Annese on September 12, 2010 at 4:10 AM
This is truly outstanding!!! Flowers are always photogenic but how do you think about this composition?
Really a master piece of creativity and taste.
Amazing!!!
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Comment posted by Peter Conway on November 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Hi Pat,

I am a little late to the table but I just saw this. It deserves all the accolades. Beautiful!

Peter
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Comment posted by Eric Mannino on January 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM
Love this photo. Great DOF. Bravo.
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Comment posted by Lorna Taylor on January 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM
Stunning work , Fantastic colours!
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