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Cathedral Grove

by Youssef Ismail

Gallery: LandscapePosted December 13, 2010163 views19 comments
Thanks for the feedback on the previous image.

For this one, I am not expecting a great response in favor or in number. It is not all that appealing of an image and I definitely think it does not have that WOW factor at all. It leaves me wondering WHY I am posting this.

At the same time I think it accurately depicts the groves of trees in the Valley that get passed by for the more alluring sights, but this area has a simple quietness to it has always made me stop.

In any case, your feedback is much appreciated.

4x5, 150mm, f11, 8 secs, with 81B and 81 C filter on Fuji Provia 100F.

Comments

19 comments
Comment posted by Rick Lundh on December 13, 2010 at 3:09 AM
Colors are nice as is the comp, but the processing feels pretty crispy/grainy to me.
Registered on April 28, 2004, 774 Posts, 4351 Comments
Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on December 13, 2010 at 4:10 AM
I agree, Youssef, nice quiet, calming scene. Good color and comp. Rick has a point about the "crispy" look. Glad you posted this.
Registered on August 16, 2006, 603 Posts, 9192 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on December 13, 2010 at 4:16 AM
Youssef,

Cathedral Grove? Where is that? Is it part of the old orchard areas around the Stables or Curry Village? Hadn't heard that location before.

Regardless of where this is, I happen to like this. Perhaps not as strong as your recent meadow/tree images, but the composition is strong and colors quite lovely.

I think the "crispy" that Rick is talking about is probably more to do with sharpening and compression getting this to the web, but I would agree slightly and just say that this is one of those images that suffers at this size. Not much can be done except to see this in a larger view or print.

The bright patches in both upper corners are mildly distracting, but not big deals either.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Guy Tal on December 13, 2010 at 7:21 AM
Youssef, I love this image. It does feel natural but also has a great sense of what it felt like to be in that meadow on a beautiful autumn day.
As a general comment, I think it's better to not color the viewer's impression with your own if you want them to provide an unbiased opinion. Often when the photographer will tell me they are not sure they like their own image, my first thought is wondering why my opinion should make a difference. Personally, if an image is not meaningful to me, I will not post it.

Guy
Registered on November 1, 2003, 566 Posts, 15507 Comments
Comment posted by Avi Hirschfield on December 13, 2010 at 7:39 AM
Yousef I like the colour palette in this the colours blend so well and gives a warm tranquill feel to it :smile:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 518 Posts, 2114 Comments
Comment posted by Lori Kincaid on December 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM
I think it's beautiful, Youssef. I love the composition and the over-arching tree. I agree it looks a little crispy--maybe a bit too much contrast as well as the inherent problems in web presentation of a 4x5 transparency.

Lori
Registered on November 15, 2003, 90 Posts, 2033 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Stough on December 13, 2010 at 8:42 AM
Although this image is obviously not one that wants to leap off the screen and hold the viewer in thrall with some amazing shapes and colors it does something that for me is at least as meaningful; it invites the viewer in to a quiet, contemplative space that is as representative of true wilderness as any landscape icon.
Registered on November 20, 2010, 26 Posts, 273 Comments
Comment posted by Raymond D Smith on December 13, 2010 at 9:08 AM
A nice calm moment caught on film Youssef. I think compression is killing all the details here. For me one of the things photography is about is capturing the less visited or not seen places. I think you have succeed in that. Cheers
Registered on January 22, 2009, 12 Posts, 479 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on December 13, 2010 at 9:32 AM
I don't understand your reluctance to post this - I think it's quite nice. I like the comp and the color. As for it being "crispy", I really can't tell anything about that on this crappy work monitor.
Registered on April 10, 2005, 753 Posts, 21216 Comments
Comment posted by Kurt Budliger on December 13, 2010 at 9:34 AM
Lovely comp. and beautiful color!
Registered on June 11, 2006, 113 Posts, 2116 Comments
Comment posted by Arnab Banerjee on December 13, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Youssef - I like the simplicity and natural color. I agree w/Guy - sometimes we photogs dont like a particular image that we have created, but it resonates with others. The opposites happen as well..I like this forum as a bouncing board for such images as you get more perspectives (though all photogs)
Registered on January 3, 2007, 313 Posts, 2270 Comments
Comment posted by Harley Goldman on December 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Really like the colors and the scene. It works quite nicely. I would like to see a larger version.
Registered on November 19, 2003, 586 Posts, 11271 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on December 13, 2010 at 3:02 PM
I think this is quite nice. Nice color and comp make this a very pretty scene, along with the quiet feel that it has.

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI.
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Tom Wilson on December 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Nicely composed, nice color and warmth to this image.
Dreamy.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 573 Posts, 2211 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on December 13, 2010 at 7:16 PM
@Guy, well I think the reason I have mixed feelings about this photo is that while working a location just prior to here, I realized that my light meter was set to ISO 400 from two evenings before in trying to get a light reading as the last bit of light faded away and I forgot to return it to ISO 100. I had realized this and that I went through an entire day underexposing 4x5 sheet film by two stops. I corrected this just prior to making this photo, so even though I find this a peaceful scene, the feelings of anxiety and loss keep surfacing when I look at it.

@Lon, this area does not really have name as far as I can tell, but its the stand of trees just south of Cathedral Beach along the Merced where you can photograph all of El Capitan with the Merced in the foreground.

And as far as the "crispiness" I think I might have hit the sharpening a bit too much. Thanks for noticing that.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Jeremy Kessler on December 13, 2010 at 8:31 PM
I like it, I bet the details in a large print are incredible.
Registered on September 13, 2007, 36 Posts, 1283 Comments
Comment posted by Vance Gese on December 13, 2010 at 11:53 PM
I thoroughly enjoy this image, Youssef. Really has that 'edge of the forest' feel to it, a peaceful, quiet statement in my opinion. Nicely done.
Registered on November 13, 2008, 298 Posts, 6629 Comments
Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on December 14, 2010 at 9:31 AM
You may have been in a crumby state of mind. But it didn't translate into a crumby image! I like some of your other stuff much better obviously, but this is definately a pleasing shot to look at.

Chris
Registered on March 13, 2007, 500 Posts, 8365 Comments
Comment posted by David Cobb on December 14, 2010 at 10:34 AM
I lovely little fall scene Youssef, well composed.
Registered on December 14, 2007, 312 Posts, 3243 Comments