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Lesser scaup
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Lesser scaup

by Ron Bielefeld

Gallery: AvianPosted February 14, 2011149 views20 comments
A shot from this past weekend. No birds flying, so I concentrated on getting close to some scaup. Again, not an easy species to get close to where I shoot. I was lucky enough to have one small group of birds come close for a short period before other photographers spooked them away. I like the very early light, water colors, and the DOF on this shot. Please view the larger version for max details. Thanks for looking.

Canon 1DM4
500mm f/4 + 1.4x TC
ISO 1000
f/9
1/640s
Manual exp.
Hand held
No NR
80% of FF

Comments

20 comments
Comment posted by Dan Walters on February 14, 2011 at 7:56 AM
Great color and eye contact! Like the color of the water as well.
Registered on October 30, 2005, 405 Posts, 3693 Comments
Comment posted by Brian Gatlin on February 14, 2011 at 7:58 AM
Ron, I like all the things you mentioned, along with the head turn, comp, and textures in the water. details are excellent.
Registered on March 21, 2009, 202 Posts, 4187 Comments
Comment posted by Jagdeep Rajput on February 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Excellent details n colors !!!
Jagdeep Rajput :toast:
Registered on April 29, 2008, 686 Posts, 2857 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Dubuc on February 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Ron.
Very nice picture and I like the colors and water reflection. Nice full details on the bird well accomplished by using this DOF.

Registered on January 4, 2011, 59 Posts, 229 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on February 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Nice position and setting. Very nice IQ: I'd never guess this was such a high ISO.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Marquart on February 14, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Hey Ron, I know how unlikely this is in Florida, but I'm quite sure what you have here is a Greater Scaup rather than a Lesser. To be sure I checked Ducks Unlimited and Cornell Lab on the web. What cought my eye was the greenish tinted head which indicates Greater Scaup as the Lesser Scaup has a purplish irridecent head. Also D.U. states that in late winter the Lesser's back looks almost white in late winter. Anyway, this is a really nice shot of a scaup. :smile: The detail is fantastic when viewing the large version, I like the background and the lighting, especially on the head.
Registered on October 24, 2009, 126 Posts, 799 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Harbour on February 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM
I love the golden water, and nice job with the color and detail on the head. The yellow eye looks great. :toast:
Registered on January 4, 2008, 113 Posts, 2416 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Bielefeld on February 14, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Gary, thanks for your comment. I always hate responding to comments like this because I am afriad I will always come off as being arrogant, and a know it all, but I never mean to be and I surely don't want what I write to come across like that . I will give it a try here and hope you don't take this in a bad way. I am mearly stating why I think this is a lesser versus a greater scaup.

Given the green in the head you might think greater. However, this is almost certainly a lesser. Lessers can show some green like this bird does along with purple depending on the light direction. This bird shows purple in other shots I have. However, the best evidence I have that this is a lesser comes from me seeing this bird fly in and land not far from me. The white on the wings was only on the secondaries and did not extend to the primaries. This is a very fool-proof ID trait IMO.

Just as an aside, and not that it means much as I am definately not the world authority on scaup, over my almost 20 years of being a professional waterfowl biologist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation commission and viewing tens of thousands of scaup here in FL, I have only seen a greater scaup once and that was on the Indian River Lagoon, a brackish water habitat. Cheers.
Registered on December 6, 2008, 360 Posts, 7132 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Marquart on February 14, 2011 at 8:07 PM
Ron, I don't want to sound arrogant either, and I most certainly didn't mean to insult you in any way by disagreeing with your ID of this bird, However I'm still in the Greater Scaup camp on this one, as it's an absolute perfect match with ID photos I see on the web including Ducks Unlimited, and my book. I haven't seen any Lesser Scaup photos that has green on the head and everything I read specificly states that green or purple heads distinguishes the two species You'll have a tough time convincing me otherwise!!! :argue: This could get ugly!! :smile:
Registered on October 24, 2009, 126 Posts, 799 Comments
Comment posted by Brian Gatlin on February 14, 2011 at 11:04 PM
Head color is a notoriously unreliable mark for separating these species based on a single view (as anyone who has seen a mallard with a momentarily purple head will attest). Kenn Kaufman (who is as authoritative as it gets) states in Advanced Birding "Never use head color as a major field mark in a lone drake scaup." I'll admit I first thought Greater on this bird from the head shape in the thumbnail, but looking at the larger shot, I believe this has the relatively pointed (or "cornered"?) back of the head of a Lesser. I also think that the bill size is in keeping with Lesser, and if Ron saw the amount of white in the wing, that's a really important mark too.

Identifying a scaup from a single photo (and one that is perhaps not ideal for ID as a straight profile would be) is not an easy game and I would certainly defer to someone who saw it in the field, particularly an experienced observer.

Gary, generally speaking, on a perched (floating) scaup, head shape and bill size are the best marks; on a flying scaup, the amount of white in the wing. Head color is an overrated and often deceptive mark.
Registered on March 21, 2009, 202 Posts, 4187 Comments
Comment posted by Simon Bennett on February 15, 2011 at 1:58 AM
Nice over-the-shoulder pose, and I like the reflected habitat, wavelets and crisp presentation too.
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Comment posted by Rob Drummond on February 15, 2011 at 3:54 AM
Light and detail in the larger image are amazing Ron. Great eye contact

cheers
Rob
Registered on November 8, 2003, 617 Posts, 8267 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Bielefeld on February 15, 2011 at 7:27 AM
One last time. The amount of white on the wings is just about infalable as an identification trait, where the color in the head in not at all that way. How many different colors can you see in the speculum of a mallard even though the main color is blue. I can see purple, violet, green, etc, depending on the direction of the light. Color of irridecent feathers is never a good ID trait due to the fact the colors change with light angle. Give me 10 drake lesser scaup and have them move around in the light and you will see green in every one of them. I have observed thousands of these birds over 20 plus years as a field biologist. This bird had white only on the secodary feathers and not on the primaries. I have never seen a greater scaup drake with white only on the secondaries. White always extends into the primaries on greaters This is a lesser scaup. Moreover, three ID books I have read something like this, "males, head may show a purple gloss, and can be mixed with green." Note the words "may" and "can." That means to me, head color is not a good ID trait. Cheers. Ron
Registered on December 6, 2008, 360 Posts, 7132 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Moore on February 15, 2011 at 9:42 AM
All said and done this is a greater photo of a Lesser scaup.The BG with the Duck is stunning.

Dan
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Comment posted by Jim Hackley on February 15, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Very interesting display of colors, a visual treat, I like the eye contact and head turn along with the good detail on the larger image, way to go.
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Comment posted by Karen Summers on February 15, 2011 at 5:22 PM
large is fantastic beautiful shot
Registered on December 3, 2009, 83 Posts, 818 Comments
Comment posted by Terry Sohl on February 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Wonderful...that head turn, and fantastic water and light, make the shot. :toast:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 513 Posts, 6889 Comments
Comment posted by Albert Darmo on February 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Hi Ron :wavey: The larger version shows amazing detail and color. The head turn and eye detail are also great. And the textured ,colored water add to this very fine composition :toast:
Albert Darmo. Canada
Registered on November 25, 2008, 1386 Posts, 11978 Comments
Comment posted by SandyRichardsBrown on February 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM
Missed this one before!
Nice pose, great water, and the BG green that mimics the head sheen is delightful.
Sandy
Registered on November 24, 2003, 3937 Posts, 12909 Comments
Comment posted by Howard Cheek on February 22, 2011 at 7:41 AM
Well composed, the reflected colors & patterns across the water are magic Ron.
Great light & detail - Well done! :toast:
Registered on July 24, 2008, 1201 Posts, 10758 Comments