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M&N - 1st Place Winner
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M&N - 1st Place Winner

by Shane McDermott

Gallery: EPA 2011Posted October 6, 20114,684 views47 comments
Kosmic Cliff Dwelling

I have tried twice before to capture this image, but to no avail both times. Once due to weather, and once, I just messed up the lighting. There where three light sources used to create this image.

This is a single exposure, no blends.

1. 25% waxing moon to illuminate the canyon.
2. One coleman lantern in the Kiva
3. One SB 900 strategically fired 12 times. Mostly to create the textured side lighting.

Nikon D3s
ISO 3200
14-24 f 2.8

Rick Goldwasser has offered invaluable suggestions to help me get the image to this point, but I would like to know if there are any other suggestions or critiques.

Thanks for commenting.

Shane

Comments

47 comments
Comment posted by Taylor Reed on October 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM
Very creative and nicely executed, makes me feel like I'm there enjoying the view which is unusual for a night time shot like this.
Registered on February 18, 2010, 26 Posts, 556 Comments
Comment posted by John Mumaw on October 6, 2011 at 11:26 PM
This has to be the most creative capture of the False Kiva that I've ever seen. The moonset works so well here and really complements the lit ruin while evoking the sense of spirits. Lit up the landscape pretty darned nicely, too. I really like the clouds in the sky.
A very minor point would be to perhaps burn down the brightest area of the overhang on the left to more closely match the rest.
Is this a single exposure?
Regardless, this was nearly flawlessly executed and the resuls are simply superb!
Registered on September 9, 2005, 62 Posts, 2289 Comments
Comment posted by Chikku Baiju on October 6, 2011 at 11:35 PM
I also agree with John. This is one of the most creative shots from False Kiva. Love everything about it.
Registered on January 9, 2010, 31 Posts, 246 Comments
Comment posted by Yiming Hu on October 6, 2011 at 11:39 PM
Like it. Well planed and beautifully executed.
Registered on April 28, 2011, 38 Posts, 733 Comments
Comment posted by Jeffrey Sipress on October 6, 2011 at 11:59 PM
Shane, this is wonderful! Not easy to do, I imagine. I hope you stayed there overnight rather than hiked out in dark. Great to see your work again.
Registered on February 17, 2004, 236 Posts, 1197 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:11 AM
Hi John

Thanks for the suggestion, I will give it a try and see what it looks like. Yes this is a single exposure, it took me about 20 gos to get the lighting right. During each 25 exposure I was running around the kive popping the flash trying to get it illuminated evenly.

Thanks for your complements.

Shane
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Hi Jeffrey

Thanks for the comment. No, I didn't stay there overnight, I hiked out and drove to double arch in Arches and got a really cool shot of the milky way directly over double arch. I will post it next. Hope you are doing well.

Shane
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Aaron Feinberg on October 7, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Holy incredible. Red gel over sb900? It's odd that w/ the moon behind the rock you were still able to get light on it...from the flash? Crazy good shot

aF
Registered on October 26, 2009, 399 Posts, 2789 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Hi Aaron

Yes, I used a yellow warming gel over the SB 900. Regarding the illuminated cliff? I really thought that was going to be the shot breaker, knowing there would be no way to light it. I think this speaks highly of the technology we are playing with these days. I can't get over how much light the D3s picks up at night with very little moon light. All I can assume is that the sensor was picking up some reflected light off of the cliff from which the Kiva lives. That, and just ambient light from the shutter being open for 25 secs. Can't explain it beyond that, just glad there was detail to extract. The one thing I am watching closely during starlight captures is that the shadows don't plug on the histogram - there was a thin space on the left side of the histogram, so I knew there was detail to bring out.

Thanks for the comment.
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Justin Marx on October 7, 2011 at 1:38 AM
Planning and hard work definitely paid off here. The image has so much depth, and I love the balance of warm and cool tones. Fantastic shot.
Registered on June 30, 2011, 2 Posts, 14 Comments
Comment posted by Svein-Frode on October 7, 2011 at 2:27 AM
WOW! That's a stunning shot!
Registered on November 13, 2003, 9 Posts, 277 Comments
Comment posted by David Edwards on October 7, 2011 at 3:14 AM
Awesome shot, Shane. Great to read your vision for the shot has been realized. The red light on the rocks is really beautiful against the blue of the night sky. The stronger light in the pit and the overall red glow gives the impression of a firelight, which triggers images of some sort of native ceremony in my imagination. The beautiful stars and moonlight really play on this imaginary scene as well. Love it.
:toast:
Registered on December 6, 2008, 142 Posts, 2623 Comments
Comment posted by Steve Sieren on October 7, 2011 at 3:29 AM
Shane, I like the shadow placement reaching into the left corner of the frame. The image has a lot of depth going for it. Maybe try adding more warmth inside the speedlight light outside of the Kiva to match it temperature wise. The moon seems a little too cold for it being so close to the horizon. Maybe you're going for the warm cool opposites there but it's seems that warming the moon's orb would help, nice work.
Registered on January 2, 2008, 360 Posts, 5321 Comments
Comment posted by Boris Pophristov on October 7, 2011 at 5:13 AM
Amazing nightscape! You've done a great job capturing it! Persistence always leads to great results!
Registered on February 1, 2011, 15 Posts, 73 Comments
Comment posted by Shantikara Valuska on October 7, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Very unique image, I like it very much! Thanks for sharing the details, you did really a great effort!
:toast:
Registered on July 25, 2011, 38 Posts, 451 Comments
Comment posted by Joseph Balcken on October 7, 2011 at 8:18 AM
This is just fantastic. My eyes almost popped out of my head as much as there is to look at. :eek:

:toast: :toast:
Registered on November 29, 2009, 48 Posts, 249 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on October 7, 2011 at 8:44 AM
Superb. :toast:
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Dorin Bofan on October 7, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Great vision and execution, Shane! One of the best images of this kind. :toast:
Registered on April 30, 2007, 122 Posts, 3086 Comments
Comment posted by Doug Koepsel on October 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Shane,
This is really a treat. I like your vision on this one and how you have developed this. The placement of the moon on the ridgepoint is nice.
On the horizon sky in the darker shadowed sky below the cloud to the left of the distant buttes, there seems to be some lens flare? or a brighter patch in the sky's shadow.
I like how the darker part in the ulc accentuates the curve of the cave opening. Wonder if a slight burn in the extreme urc would do the same.

Doug
Registered on April 1, 2010, 196 Posts, 1592 Comments
Comment posted by R.Bill Moser on October 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM
This is a very creativ capture. The sky looks a bit too cold for me and the temperature wise it doesn't fit perfectly to the foreground. But this is a great shot as is. Well done
Registered on January 29, 2010, 285 Posts, 4281 Comments
Comment posted by Eva McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM
A surreal and beautiful night-scape Shane.
Registered on January 4, 2009, 1015 Posts, 13229 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Hi Steve

I like your suggestion to balance out the color temps within the chamber, it would seem more natural perhaps. I will play with warming the moon orb as well. Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate it.

Shane
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Hi Doug

Thanks for your comments. You are right about the bit of lens flare. It was bothering me but I wanted to see if anyone else had an issue with it. Now I guess I have to change it. It would definitely become more of an issue in a larger print for sure. I will also explore adding a bit of a vignette in the URC.

Thanks for your comments.
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Hi David

Thanks for the comments. I was hoping someone would share their interpretation and imaginings of the scene. What this invoked for you, was exactly what inspired me to create it, and exactly what I hoped viewers would imagine. The creative cycle completes itself with this sort of confirmation - that's awesome! I was really trying to give a sense of ceremony to this scene, and that there was an actual fire in the kiva, and perhaps fire torches hanging from the walls.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by John Fan on October 7, 2011 at 5:46 PM
I have seen many pictures from this spot. This is one of the best.
Registered on August 24, 2010, 135 Posts, 489 Comments
Comment posted by Jean Day on October 7, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Very impressive work and shot! I love the kiva light, the moonlight cresting the mesa, and that cloud seemingly flowing out of the moon. I can imagine being here and feeling the warmth of a fire. Beautiful! :toast:
Registered on April 10, 2011, 36 Posts, 306 Comments
Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on October 10, 2011 at 6:45 PM
A splendid result for your attention to lighting. :toast:
Registered on September 27, 2006, 636 Posts, 10682 Comments
Comment posted by Harry Lichtman on October 11, 2011 at 8:22 PM
From a processing view point, way beyond anything I am capable of producing, especially with all of the light sources. Looks other-wordly, as such a moon lit nigh does. Fantastic rendition of this place. The right side looks like it could use a little sharpening, as least with the lareger web view.
Registered on September 17, 2010, 304 Posts, 3507 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on October 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM
One of the more realistic and better shots I have seen from here! :toast:
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by Danny Laureys on October 13, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Excellent!!!! :toast: :toast: :toast:
Registered on January 5, 2008, 590 Posts, 1261 Comments
Comment posted by Ashley Vincent on October 14, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Absolutely beautiful, effort extremely well rewarded, and congratulations on a well deserved WP Shane!
Registered on March 1, 2011, 154 Posts, 2083 Comments
Comment posted by SandyRichardsBrown on October 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Just stunning - congrats on the EP!
Sandy
Registered on November 24, 2003, 3937 Posts, 12909 Comments
Comment posted by Nicolaus Wegner on October 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Magical...totally awesome photograph and execution!
Registered on February 21, 2010, 133 Posts, 1509 Comments
Comment posted by Soubhik Patranabis on October 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Awesome !!
Registered on January 25, 2010, 54 Posts, 610 Comments
Comment posted by Lynn Scott on October 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM
This is Awesome!
Registered on January 10, 2010, 7 Posts, 20 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 17, 2011 at 7:10 PM
Hi Harry

Thanks for pointing out the sharpening issues on the LRC. Before I print it, I will look at that more closely.

Shane
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by SandyRichardsBrown on January 3, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Incredible image - congrats on the 1st place M&N win!
Sandy
Registered on November 24, 2003, 3937 Posts, 12909 Comments
Comment posted by Daniel & Loana on January 3, 2012 at 4:02 AM
Wonderful shot and well deserved 2011 win!

D&L
Registered on October 7, 2008, 166 Posts, 3044 Comments
Comment posted by Cheryl Molennor on January 3, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Mindblowing image. Well deserving the 1st place Congratulations to you
Registered on June 30, 2009, 300 Posts, 5051 Comments
Comment posted by Angela McCain on January 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Congrats on a well-deserved award. A truly artistic image.
Registered on April 19, 2009, 367 Posts, 3589 Comments
Comment posted by Phil Pogledich on January 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Congrats on the EPA, Shane. I really admire your creativity and perseverence. This is probably the best take on this location that I've seen.
Registered on August 24, 2009, 123 Posts, 3099 Comments
Comment posted by Doug Roane on January 4, 2012 at 3:16 PM
awesome Shane! Well deserved 1st place!
Registered on December 12, 2008, 213 Posts, 2226 Comments
Comment posted by Mohammad Hosseini on January 5, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Congrats Shane, Well deserved. Hard work pays off :toast:
Registered on May 16, 2011, 15 Posts, 301 Comments
Comment posted by Roger Leekam on January 8, 2012 at 8:52 AM
There are good landscapes, there are great landscapes and there's THIS - off the scale. If I saw a way to improve this I would consider myself a true genius. Unbelievable!
Registered on May 28, 2009, 83 Posts, 646 Comments
Comment posted by Larry Lynch on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM
I have admired this and felt it to be more than worthy of recognition and your achievement.
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Comment posted by Mark Metternich on March 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM
The best night shot I have seen from here. Usually they are tacky and faked. This looks real and great!
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by Rick Diffley on April 9, 2012 at 7:34 PM
Accolades to all the work you put into this great image.
Registered on April 8, 2012, 52 Posts, 279 Comments