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Could Have Should Have+repost

by Peter Coskun

Gallery: LandscapePosted September 12, 2013370 views16 comments
I've been very fortunate to be able to photograph the grand canyon the last few years and has become one of my favorite places to shoot. It's grand vistas are stunning, and the intricate details within the canyon can sometimes be magical when the light hits it right. I've also had my share of good light over the canyon. Some of the best I've had anywhere while shooting. There were storms brewing up north, and a friend of mine asked if I would like to go up to the canyon with him and his girlfriend. I figured a free trip to the canyon wouldn't be such a bad day and the possibility of an incredible sunset. We wandered around the rim for a few hours mid afternoon until my friend asked me where I would like to shoot sunset. He knows I was there to shoot, and being the former photographer he is knew the chance for a spectacular sunset. After briefly making a stop at grandview point and running into Doug K for a chat, we headed to Lipan point. I shot this scene in the winter when it was -9 and it was about 90 degrees here. The storms moving across the canyon and clouds separating revealing some beautiful light gave me lots of hope until I heard five words from his girlfriend..."I want to go home". There was an hour until the sun would set, and I KNEW the light was going to break. My friend was in a pickle, well, one that didn't last very long. He obliged to his girlfriend and off we were back to Flagstaff to have dinner with some of their friends. She asked me if I would be upset if we left, and I told her the light was going to break, and there would be an incredible sunset. Leaving now would have been a waste of a whole day trip here. She scoffed and I told my buddy that if the light exploded on the way back to Flag, that I would like to stop and try to get something. Once we were on the 89 going south it began raining lightly, but I could see the sun still shining through the clouds to the west. By the time we reached the Wupatki national monument entrance, the sky was on fire. Orange, red, yellow, pink, every warm color that comes with sunset. Oh, and lighting and two rainbows! I almost caused an accident I was screaming so loud. I couldn't believe it, one of the best sunsets I have seen and I am sitting in a truck watching it all with the camera right next to me. We never stopped, thanks to the girl. My friend bought me dinner that night, and let me drive his brand new truck back to PHX. I could have and should have had an EPIC shot from here. I was kinda lucky here, and I think the light and processing emphasize how I felt that night. Soft and gloomy. Comments and critiques appreciated.

Canon 7d
Canon 17-40mm @28mm
f14
ISO 100
1/80th sec
Tripod

Comments

16 comments
Comment posted by Preston Birdwell on September 12, 2013 at 8:15 PM
I like the composition and the light on the foreground a lot. Where I am having trouble is with the cyan in the background: it doesn't quite balance with the foreground. The diminishing detail due to the haze gives this a lot of depth.

This must've been a sight to see!

--P
Registered on November 1, 2003, 471 Posts, 5188 Comments
Comment posted by Philip Hodgkins on September 12, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Bring the cyan down and it's a better picture. Even with the yucky sky, this is magnificent. As for missed opportunities, you will remember the sunset long after the photo passes into digital oblivion. There are many of God's creations that are holy ground that are as meaningful without the picture. :smile:
Registered on July 24, 2006, 2741 Posts, 12349 Comments
Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on September 12, 2013 at 9:51 PM
Wow, very nice conditions here. My only issue is with the cyan that Preston pointed out. Nice!

Chris
Registered on March 13, 2007, 500 Posts, 8365 Comments
Comment posted by Nancy Lea Sandy on September 12, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Beautiful scene. sorry you missed the epic shot. I like the the subdued mood in this image and the nice light.
Registered on January 24, 2011, 576 Posts, 6942 Comments
Comment posted by Ted Gore on September 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Well that would have frustrated the hell out of me. I woulda told her to shut up and be patient, IT WILL BE WORTH IT! Haha.

So, I dig the bottom half of the image, like, really nice! The top half has color issues. Cyan in the canyon, magenta up on that peak, a brown cloud in the upper right, and a white, kinda blown sky. I'd maybe try giving that sky another go. After that, it'd be a winner!
Registered on April 25, 2013, 36 Posts, 149 Comments
Comment posted by Brian Schrayer on September 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM
I actually like a 4X5 crop of the bottom 2/3 of this image a little better. Having said that I like the layers in the composition as presented. I think what is bothering me is the brightness of the sky. I think if you were to darken the sky and add some contrast it would help a lot. I also agree with Preston's comment about the Cyan color cast in the background.
Registered on May 28, 2004, 114 Posts, 2890 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Teller on September 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Great composition and color, except I agree about the cyan.
Registered on August 23, 2010, 1162 Posts, 6692 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Coskun on September 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Thanks for the feedback, I never noticed the cyan in the distance, so I started over and pulled much of it back as well as the magentas, but could not tone them down too much (the buttes in the upper region of the canyon are very red rocks). Also got rid of the brown in the sky and darkened it a bit to show more of the cloud structure. It is raining in the upper right of the sky, so anything that looks hazy is actually hazy. Hope this revision worked out most of the kinks.

Ted, my friend doesn't go by the old saying bros before h#$ I guess haha
Registered on October 31, 2011, 170 Posts, 1240 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Marcellini on September 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Great view, the repost is much better. I would still back off the glowy glowiness. I would have probably caused a break-up of that relationship...he doesn't need a girl that does that to his friend! That is like the worst kind of torture.
Registered on November 27, 2007, 250 Posts, 2468 Comments
Comment posted by David Chauvin on September 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM
The color in the repost looks better. Simply a fantastic scene. :cool:
Registered on August 5, 2004, 1007 Posts, 5595 Comments
Comment posted by Harley Goldman on September 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM
I really like the repost.

I hope your buddy dumps the girlfriend, for his sake and yours.
Registered on November 19, 2003, 586 Posts, 11271 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Coskun on September 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Thanks everyone! My friend has that ever so short leash on him, so it is no surprise. However, he did drive me to Glacier and drove the majority of the time, waking up before sunrise and getting back after sunset, and endured two days of non stop rain that somehow got into the tent causing him to sleep in his truck. I still don't forgive him for this! haha
Registered on October 31, 2011, 170 Posts, 1240 Comments
Comment posted by Kane Engelbert on September 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Looks a little like there's just too much smoke, it happens... That's about a grand scenic as it gets...must have nice skies for these kinds of shots IMO. Post processing this thing to death seems desperate.

Peter, your repost is better but is that the way it looked? There's a weird "dirty brown" vignette in the top right corner.

Registered on June 14, 2009, 63 Posts, 291 Comments
Comment posted by Karsten Wrobel on September 15, 2013 at 10:49 AM
incredible epic view... and a terribly sad story to go with it :mad:
Registered on November 1, 2008, 117 Posts, 851 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Coskun on September 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Thank you Kane and Karsten.

Kane, this isn't really too far off from what it really looked like. There wasn't any smoke, just rain and a very humid atmosphere which created some haze throughout the canyon. I'm not seeing the brown in the repost, I did notice it in the original after Ted mentioned it though.
Registered on October 31, 2011, 170 Posts, 1240 Comments
Comment posted by Marylynne Diggs on September 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM
When I really want to do photography, I go it alone. Too many compromises otherwise.
Registered on December 14, 2010, 122 Posts, 1034 Comments