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Green River Overlook
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Green River Overlook

by Grant Collier

Gallery: LandscapePosted December 21, 20131,223 views10 comments
I failed to get the light I wanted after many attempts at photographing Green River Overlook during the day. So I decided to try and photograph it at night. I took this on a November evening, when the Milky Way is in the western part of the sky after sunset.

I combined two exposures for this shot - one after sunset of the land and one large stitched image from the same spot about an hour later of the sky. I then uprezed the shot of the land so it lined up with the shot of the sky as closely as possible.

To keep things consistent, I used to combine two stitched images ... one for the land and one for the sky. But I found that the stitching software distorts the images and they don't quite line up perfectly anyway. And I've found that without doing the stitched image for the sky, there is too much noise to print it large.

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Nikon D800e - land shot f8, 14mm, ISO 100, 15 secs, stitched sky shots f1.8 50mm ISO 6400, 10 secs per exposure

Comments

10 comments
Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on December 22, 2013 at 4:57 AM
A surreal and really appealing vision Grant. My preference would be to see some of the brighter highlights in the Milky Way toned down a bit but really I can't see a lot to criticise.
Registered on September 27, 2006, 636 Posts, 10682 Comments
Comment posted by Nancy Lea Sandy on December 22, 2013 at 8:01 AM
stunning image, beautifully crafted. My only nit would be the blue highlihgts on the bush. I find them a bit distracting but they certainly aren't an image killer. I love the sky.
Registered on January 24, 2011, 576 Posts, 6942 Comments
Comment posted by R.Bill Moser on December 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM
This looks quiet surreal. i love the feeling of it. Me too, I'm a bit distracted by the highlights in the foreground. But I love it as is. Love the milky way here.
Registered on January 29, 2010, 285 Posts, 4281 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Teller on December 22, 2013 at 5:28 PM
At first glance I would have thought this was a painting. Fine image and very good technical work.
Registered on August 23, 2010, 1162 Posts, 6692 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on December 22, 2013 at 11:33 PM
It is a surreal image Grant. Something I would expect to see in a dream, if I dreamed in color, do people dream in color? Anyway, its a fantastical representation that catches the eye, but takes you far from reality. Nice job though.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Jared Warren on December 23, 2013 at 5:37 AM
Grant, this is a beautifully surreal image. I love the concept and composition. My preference would be for a version with more natural processing, but I suspect your intent was more toward the surreal and you've done that really well.
Registered on May 11, 2012, 84 Posts, 931 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Seaver on December 23, 2013 at 7:41 PM
This is a stunning (if surreal) image.
Registered on January 23, 2011, 1103 Posts, 17270 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on December 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM
It's real pretty, Grant, but for me this is photo art, because it doesnt enable me to feel like im with you at the scene, it's nice art but i cant really connect to it cause it's so over the top--as Youssef said, something id see in a dream...for this gallery i prefer something id see in reality :wink:
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Grant Collier on December 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Thanks for the comments! Other than combining two exposures, I processed this image the same way I do most of my night photos. Obviously, whenever you combine two exposures taken an hour apart you're pushing things closer to photo art. Other than this, I tried to keep it as a representation of reality or at least the "reality" that the camera captures. The sun had set on the right side of the image, so the pink glow is some ambient light that still remained.

I think night photos tend to be subject to more artistic interpretation than daytime photos. This is because we see mainly with rods in our eyes at night vs. cones during the day. Rods are much more light sensitive but you can't see nearly as much detail or color with them. You can't see reds at all, which is perhaps why photos like this with reds in them appear even more unnatural to us.

Cameras, on the other hand, still capture things at night the way we would see them with cones, since that's how they were designed. No camera is able to capture things as we see them with rods. So in post-processing we can try to subdue the colors and details in an attempt to mimic what we see with rods. Or we can keep the colors and try to mimic how we would see if our cones were ultra-light sensitive. I choose the latter, as I think it's fascinating to know all the colors the camera can "see" at night that we can't.

Sorry for the long-winded reply. I've just been thinking about this more lately. People often come into my gallery and ask about my night photos "Are they real?" There's no simple yes or no answer to this question, as people would like. No photo is "real." At best, a photo is a 2 dimensional representation of a 4 dimensional reality. And night photos are even trickier since what the camera sees is significantly different than what we see. All I can say is that I didn't add, remove, or move any objects in the photo and I didn't skew the colors that the camera captured other than deciding on a white balance. I do want the image to be surreal, since the landscape and night sky are quite surreal. But I don't want this to be seen as pure fantasy either.

For me personally, the image in Stan's gallery of "Event Horizon II," with the flashlight and sunstar-moon and ultra-blue sky is more in the realm of photo art than this image. But for me, that's what makes night photography more interesting and challenging. We all have a different way of interpreting what exists at night, as there is no set reality, with the camera seeing things so much differently and clearly than our eyes. To some extent, we can only imagine what the night sky looks like, as we are half-blind to it. The camera can help bring our imagination to life.

I do have a little more subdued version of this shot on my web site, with less sharpening. You can see it at the link below, assuming anyone has actually read this far! If not, at least I've hashed out some more ideas for a book I'm working on. :cool:

http://www.gcollier.com/Green-River-Overlook.jpg

Registered on July 29, 2005, 73 Posts, 430 Comments
Comment posted by Tim Mulholland on January 25, 2014 at 3:33 PM
I like this image because it's different and it's drawing me out of my comfort zone. My first inclination is to "dislike" this photo because it's just not "normal." On the other hand, I just can't stop looking at it and thinking about the complexity of the shot, as well as the complexity of the meaning in the photograph.

Wow, just wow...

Tim!
Registered on April 24, 2006, 14 Posts, 139 Comments