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+RP's Moody Oxbow Take 2
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+RP's Moody Oxbow Take 2

by Ryan Shain

Gallery: LandscapePosted February 22, 2016325 views21 comments
Larger file included

A scene captured as the super moon was setting over Mt. Moran in Grand Teton national Park this past Autumn. The Super Moon was so very bright that it was illuminating the area with an Erie mood that casted itself ove the Teton Range. I am very curious to what y'all think of this image. I am headed to bed soon, but will be back tomorrow to comment more on all the fine images on NPN. cool

The blues in this image I have thought long about, and in the web presentation, I have reduced cyan saturation by 36 points, and blues by 15 points. It was very blue on this morning at 20 seconds. Too blue for y'all still?

Thank you very much for your time and thoughts on this and all my images.

Canon 70d, ISO 100, 24-105 at 58 mm, f8, 20 seconds, tripod, shutter release, and a couple  soft GND's

Comments

21 comments
Comment posted by Tom Falley on February 22, 2016 at 11:19 PM
Nice image Ryan, your colors come out nicely to what we expect in the scene. I expect the real scene was very cyan, much as with tungsten, daylight we correct to what we think we are percieving.

Thanks!    Tom
Registered on November 21, 2014, 189 Posts, 454 Comments
Comment posted by Pete Bengeyfield on February 22, 2016 at 11:46 PM
It's the blues that make it unique.  Looks just about right to me.  I think you want people to know it's night.  Very nice.
Registered on December 2, 2003, 1247 Posts, 3439 Comments
Comment posted by Aaron Feinberg on February 23, 2016 at 2:59 AM
Nice take.  Could see putting some blue back in.  I'd expect a bit more.  Good stuff.

aF
Registered on October 26, 2009, 399 Posts, 2789 Comments
Comment posted by Harley Goldman on February 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM
Real nice!!!! The blues are working for me as is. Excellent.
Registered on November 19, 2003, 586 Posts, 11271 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on February 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM
Ryan, This is really nice. I like the blues in this scene a lot and it really has the night look and feel. Your composition works great and I especially like the highlights reflected in the water. Beautiful work on this!  Nick
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Seaver on February 23, 2016 at 11:09 AM
The moonlight works very well here, Ryan.  It sets off a fine glow on the mountains and in the trees plus distinct, but nicely muted reflections..  Including some of it's brightness in the frame and the reflection contributes nicely to the story of a fine moonlight night.  The blues look good as presented.
Registered on January 23, 2011, 1103 Posts, 17270 Comments
Comment posted by Roel Wijtmans on February 23, 2016 at 12:30 PM
Not at al too blue for me, it fits this scene perfectly! I love everything about this image, and you nicely captured the mood that you described. Must have been amazing to witness on spot.
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Comment posted by Ron Pullen on February 23, 2016 at 1:07 PM
Loving everything about it, nice take on an iconic spot.  Ron
Registered on December 18, 2005, 74 Posts, 1413 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on February 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM
Ryan,  Wow, this is surreal!  Very unique and beautiful.

The blues aren't too saturated, but for my taste I would like this to lean more towards blue than cyan, if I had a preference.

The only minor nit I have is that this appears to have a very small ccw rotation?  Maybe it's perception only?

I'm also trying figure out something.  The reflection of the moon is significantly warmer than in the sky.  I know when near the horizon a full moon will pick up the warmth, but the light in the sky is more towards white.  Shouldn't the reflection be nearly the same?  Curious about that.

Regardless, still a unique and special image.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Leggett on February 23, 2016 at 1:26 PM
Beautifully presented, Ryan.  While a 50-50 split of the horizon may not normally work well, I like the inclusion of the moon's reflection to complete the moody composition, and the color balance looks fine to me.  Well done.
Registered on July 21, 2004, 706 Posts, 3233 Comments
Comment posted by Ryan Shain on February 23, 2016 at 8:49 PM
Thanks everyone for all the thoughts on this  image, as I very much appreciate your time and input on my images.

Lon,

I have attached a raw screen capture of what the shot looked like in raw, and I remember seeing as bit warmer. I may want to bring down the warmth a bit as it may be on the intense side. I am will look over the CCW rotation too. The water was pretty dark, and I remember the reflection being more orange, but alas I may have really wanted to offset the blues with an aggressive warmth to the reflection. Also, the moon may have has a tad bit more warmth than usual. I am no expert, but the whole Blood Moon thing was going on at this time.  I am adding another post for that example of the moon.

I think I had a soft 2 stop soft GND on for the water area to bring that down, and a soft 4 for the top. Alas, I will experiment with reducing the orange glow a bit to see how it looks.

Than you for the thoughts Lon, as always.
Registered on February 20, 2007, 226 Posts, 4571 Comments
Comment posted by Ryan Shain on February 23, 2016 at 8:50 PM
An underexposed moon capture
Registered on February 20, 2007, 226 Posts, 4571 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on February 23, 2016 at 9:26 PM
Ryan,

Thanks for including the screenshot of the Raw image.  Interesting.  Maybe someone else with more experience and knowledge can explain the difference in the reflection, but after your additional information, I'm wondering about the grads.  Years ago, I recall plastic Cokin grabs had a distinct color cast.  I don't know what you have, but I'm wondering if that caused a color shift?  Otherwise, unless there was something in the water to cause a color change, I'm at a loss as to why there is such a difference in color.  Clearly, it wasn't your processing.

I'm easily stumped though.... ;-)
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by David Schoen on February 23, 2016 at 10:41 PM
I'm with you on the blue and cyan perception thing. This seems to happen on a fair number of my images. Perhaps it's my workflow. Maybe it's just the way I perceive the colors myself. I like the eeriness and the mood it has created.
Registered on November 6, 2006, 1213 Posts, 4587 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Richter on February 24, 2016 at 6:02 AM
An exceptional shot for me, Ryan! Keeping the moon outside the frame really works for me, and I enjoy the interplay of cooler and warmer shades.

I just think whether cropping a bit from the bottom might help me to concentrate on the midground, that seems very interesting to me.

Peter
Registered on November 10, 2010, 218 Posts, 2723 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on February 24, 2016 at 2:39 PM
Perfect light and lovely dreamy.  Nice job in all respects here! 
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by John Williams on February 24, 2016 at 4:05 PM
No problem on the blues for me too Ryan. Beautiful scene, and I really like the subtle stars shining through.
Registered on September 6, 2007, 221 Posts, 5985 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Zelinka on February 24, 2016 at 4:22 PM
I love the colors here, the reds and blues complementing each other beautifully. I find the out-of-frame moonlight a distraction though, but no one else has mentioned it.
Registered on August 20, 2007, 206 Posts, 998 Comments
Comment posted by Marylynne Diggs on February 24, 2016 at 9:48 PM
I really like this, Ryan, right down to the warmth.  I know this sounds crazy, but sometimes I think there is a warmness imparted to the very air when leaves are orange.  For me, it works.

Regarding the orange tint of the moon's reflection, I wonder if there was a large boulder or rock or something just under the water that was illuminated by the reflection in some way?   Or maybe you had on a headlamp wink
Registered on December 14, 2010, 122 Posts, 1034 Comments
Comment posted by Dave Dillemuth on February 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM
Ryan,
Late commenting but wanted to relay that I think this is a terrific image. Love the comp. and color palette. Outstanding capture!
Registered on December 10, 2015, 104 Posts, 1112 Comments
Comment posted by Ryan Shain on February 29, 2016 at 6:11 PM
Thank you again for the time and thought y'all.


Marylynne,

There may have been a rock under the water there as I was literally inches away from the water, and the water was rather low at this time of year.  Thanks for the thoughts.
Registered on February 20, 2007, 226 Posts, 4571 Comments