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"Repost" Seeing Possibilities 

by Ryan Shain

Gallery: LandscapePosted December 17, 2016166 views12 comments
Hi Y'all,

I have been experimenting with in camera motion movements to create a relationship between trees and the supporting elements. This is mostly the leaf foliage present, but also could be snow or anything else that is interesting. I am curious as to the thoughts of this direction. Is this still considered photography to many of you, or is something different. I have experimented with different shutter lengths,  camera motions as in up, dow, or sideways, and camera stabilization settings to create certain textures as I capture these image. This current image is fascinating for my self as you see this done with mostly smooth backgrounds. This one is more textured, and I kind of like it. What do y'all think?

Thank you so much for any input you have on this image.

Comments

12 comments
Comment posted by Phil Pogledich on December 17, 2016 at 1:50 PM
For me, it's definitely photography and I have no problem with images like this.  I've tried them myself on a number of occasions without a lot of success (except once when success came by accident after a wave hit my tripod).

I like this, particularly the textures and colors.  Perhaps with the minor exception of the purple trunk in the middle of the frame, which I think might be less dominating if you pulled back slightly on the saturation.  I'll be curious to see if others agree/disagree.
Registered on August 24, 2009, 123 Posts, 3099 Comments
Comment posted by Jim Zablotny on December 17, 2016 at 2:24 PM
Hi Ryan,

This is a fun abstract to examine. I like the colors and the vertical components of the comp.  The purple trunk is a strong element in the comp--maybe moving it off center could create a more desirable asymmetry in the comp.  Otherwise, well done....................Jim
Registered on January 17, 2004, 705 Posts, 3594 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Kearl on December 17, 2016 at 5:02 PM
I think this a very attractive abstract. I do believe, though, it belongs in photo art.
Registered on September 2, 2013, 209 Posts, 1514 Comments
Comment posted by Kathy Barnhart on December 17, 2016 at 5:28 PM
I do consider this photography and I think it's fun to do as well as to look at. Your colors and textures are very appealing in this one. I am undecided about the comp and think I would favor a crop to the right of the purple band, The large yellow area is what draws my eye, so even if it were darkened a bit it might help blend in and not stand out quite so much.

It would be great if you could give us some specs on how you achieved this look.
Registered on November 11, 2011, 404 Posts, 1639 Comments
Comment posted by Vance Gese on December 17, 2016 at 7:18 PM
Love it, Ryan.  The textures you have achieved are remarkable, and love those beautiful colors.  I am a little on the fence about the centered violet/purple tree trunk; seems to evenly split your composition to some degree.  Wonder if you move the tones for that one centered tree to more blue, like the other three main trees, leaving everything else the same.  Just a thought.  Either way, beautiful, creative photography in my opinion.  Hope you have more of your experiments to post.
Registered on November 13, 2008, 298 Posts, 6629 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Lowe on December 17, 2016 at 9:14 PM
Works for me, Ryan. You will probably get a lot of different thoughts on this as everyone has a certain line they will not cross. I myself think that camera movement is still photography; you did not add anything that was not already in the scene.  The textures and the combination of warm and cool tones really shine in the large version. I could also see this working with a crop from the right to the tree trunk to move the purple one a bit off center. I look forward to seeing more from your experiments with camera motion. BTW, how did you achieve the colors of the tree trunks?

Ed
Registered on February 7, 2004, 414 Posts, 7115 Comments
Comment posted by Aaron Feinberg on December 17, 2016 at 11:46 PM
I like these images and this is a great result.  Difficult to get something coherent sometimes.  this is on point...maybe a bit too much blue?  Not sure how much you pushed things here so could be legit.  Nice work.

aF
Registered on October 26, 2009, 399 Posts, 2789 Comments
Comment posted by Ryan Shain on December 18, 2016 at 10:21 AM
Thank you for all the input on this image, and here is a repost with the purples and blues brought way down. Some of the technicals for this image. It, was hand held using my 70-300 IS lens, and I don't believe I had image stabilization enabled and that lead to more of a textured image. When I had the image stabilization on, it lead to smoother textures, which i really dig as well.

I find anywhere from 1-3 seconds tends to work out well, this image wa captured at 2 seconds, and finding the right amount of leaf foliage in the background is key along with having strong vertical structures to create the composition. You do not have to worry so much about branches as they tend to blend into the background. I usually use an upward movement with the camera during the exposure, and I make sure there is no sky in these images. Snowy scenes work out great as well, and having sky in those scene tends to work out just fine if it is an overcast day and the sky is mostly white to blend in with the snow.

Thanks again y'all


Ed,

The cool tones of the evening really came out in this one, but I think my cloudy white balance setting really brought out the blues and purples naturally occurring in the light of this night. I brought them way down in the repost. I think bringing them down hlp the center tree to blend in a bit more with the rest of the scene.
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Comment posted by Lon Overacker on December 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM
Ryan,

I can see a series of these lining the halls of a 5-star hotel, airport or hospital, etc.  endless possibilities with these techniques.  The colors are bold, but then who says they have to fit any certain rules. They don't.  You did a great job with this and I love it.

Just my humble opinion on the topic.  Clearly this is photography and again, it's simply an artistic technique.  Personally, I don't buy the "in camera" designation to determine if it's photography or manipulation; clearly whether or not if you use a technique in camera or in post, the "intent" is to alter common sense reality.  As a former mod, I struggled with these, but purely from an NPN perspective I always felt these were more appropriate in Photo Art. But that's purely from an NPN, gallery definition point of view and not a reflection on anyone's opinions on whether or not this is photography.  And I enjoy the creativity here just as much as a masterfully processed nature landscape image.  End of .02

Lon

edit: The toned down version works too, but both are totally subjective - whichever one you like best! ;-)
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by SandyRichardsBrown on December 18, 2016 at 3:07 PM
Wonderful lines and textures here.
Works for me -

Sandy
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Comment posted by Nick Bristol on December 19, 2016 at 9:47 AM
Hey Ryan, This is cool stuff! Looks like it would be fun working with some techniques like this. I'm thinking like Lon did. These could  work in hospitals, hotels and several other business places, even McDonalds. Fun stuff!!  Nick

 
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Comment posted by Igor Doncov on December 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM
The color texture of this image remind me very much of Renoir's pastels done over a century ago. This is truly an abstract in that it no longer resembles anything in the real worlds. The composition is very nice but my favorite aspect is the color variation within the colors themselves, particularly the blue/green stripe on the far left. It must be a difficult way to shoot since you don't know what you'll end up with each time you shoot. It's sort of like shooting a flowing river with slow shutter speed. I like both versions but probably the second a bit more. 
 
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