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New Moon, Cascade Lake
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New Moon, Cascade Lake

by Wayne Jones

Gallery: LandscapePosted October 29, 20171,871 views8 comments
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On a clear night a couple of weeks ago, I tried some night photography.  I was actually thinking of shooting this scene when there was a little moonlight, but the night was clear, and I was there even if the Moon wasn't.  (I suppose one of these days I'll devote more time to night shots, and make a twilight exposure to blend with a starry night, but I have a hard time getting excited about creating a scene that cannot exist in nature.)  I tried overexposing to get a touch of detail in the land, but did not do that well enough to avoid noise.  Any other advice to help me improve a scene like this would be appreciated.

Thanks

Canon 5D Mark III,  Samyang 14 mm. f/2.8
25 sec. at f/4;  ISO 1250 for the sky, and ISO 2500 for the land.

I kept the sky pretty dark for realism, but you can see an overhanging branch in the top of the scene.  It was so dark that I could not see that when I was there.  Poor planning?  Nope -- no planning; it was a spur-of-the-moment trip before going to bed.

Comments

8 comments
Comment posted by Jake Alletson on October 30, 2017 at 12:30 AM
Perhaps this is less impressive than many astro shots that we see, but it is realistic.  The tree at the top and the hints of vegetation on the sides help fill out and balance the composition.  I like it.
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Comment posted by Lon Overacker on October 30, 2017 at 12:16 PM
Bill,

Good job with this.  I've dabbled in a few starry night images with little success, so I'm with ya - and this is better than any of my attempts.  I don't have any advice. ;-(

I do really like the graphics and symmetry created with the reflection and opposing hillsides.  The night sky looks great.

At first the tree kinda seemed out of place, but then understanding this was taken with a 14mm lens, it all makes sense.  The good news is that there is enough of the tree to make it feel included.

Just noticed there is some odd purple coloration going on both sides. Not sure if it's noise or what, but the landscape closer to the center looks properly exposed/processed, but something is happening towards the edges.

Lon
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Comment posted by Harley Goldman on October 30, 2017 at 4:01 PM
This works better for me than most night images. I am with Jake, it has a nice realistic look to it. Nicely done. 
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Comment posted by Igor Doncov on October 30, 2017 at 5:48 PM
This is a fine night image imo. The variability in tone value from the horizon upward is something I really like. The tree branch is fine. I don't think it would necessarily be better without it. Lon has mentioned the purple in the hills. I think that dodging the right mountain to give as much detail as the left would be a good thing. 

I have shot a few night pictures and have found that the best way is to set up the camera on the tripod, composed and with all the proper settings, the evening before dark. I remember the first time I tried focusing at night.  The camera seemed to go nut as the  autofocus tried to settle on something.
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Comment posted by Dan Kearl on October 30, 2017 at 6:57 PM
This is a nice realistic night photo, but I do have some suggestions.
I always shoot wide open for night shots, not sure why you chose F4...
You will also get noise, just a fact of night photography. I also shoot as high an ISO as I need to for exposure and deal
with the noise in PP. I use Topaz which works well.

I really do not like to shoot with no moon, just too dark. A partial rising moon from behind adds some nice light to the scene.
light painting done right can look real but it takes some practice. but I also like to shoot at the end of the blue hour when there is still some ambient light.
Another trick is to manually focus the lens before dark or know exactly where to place the focus ring.
Hope this helps.
 
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Comment posted by Wayne Jones on October 30, 2017 at 7:53 PM
Thanks for the comments and suggestions.  I am always learning, and I appreciate the help.

FOCUSING:  I have shot at night a few times and learned quickly that focusing was a problem.  I don't bother trying to use AF (and the lens I usually use does not have AF anyway).  My solution was to put a piece of tape on the lens to mark the real infinity line (in daylight).  However, I discovered during this shoot that the tape had moved during storage and handling.  As a result, I had to guess where the line used to be, so I shot at f/4 instead of wide open to avoid soft focus.

MY SOLUTION:  Before my next night shoot, I plan to mark the infinity spot again, but this time with some of my wife's light-colored nail polish.  I used it to mark a carbon kayak paddle for measuring fish, and it seems to hold up pretty well.  I will cover the edge of the lens sleve with transparent tape first, to make sure I don't get any nail polish where it might gum up the lens.


 
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Comment posted by Ed Cordes on October 31, 2017 at 1:06 PM
Excellent image Wayne.  I agree about the branch and, frankly is something I would most likely be guilty of as well.
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Comment posted by Mark Seaver on October 31, 2017 at 6:04 PM
This is a fine starry night catch, Wayne.  It's very realistic, with the mountain sides barely visible.  The subtle color changes in the sky also look real (due to a combination of light and air pollution/dust).  Yes, the overhanging branches are a surprise that it would be good to avoid, but the star field and the reflected stars in the lake look great.
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