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Posting guidelines reminder

Discussion

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Posted by Rick Lamb on October 1, 2006 at 11:18 AM
Hey folks, It seems we are starting to not post image information in our posts. Data such as exposure settings and equipment used is VERY helpful to all of us. Please make sure to include all of this in your posts for the benefit of all of the community that is PNWNP!

For refresher purposes here is a link to the posting guidelines:

Posting Guidelines

And here is an example of a listing of image information:

Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II
Shutter speed: 1/6 sec
Aperture: f/11
ISO: 100
Exposure mode: Av
Metering mode: Evaluative
Lens: Canon 24 to 70mm f/2.8 L
Focal length: 70mm
Tripod/Remote Release

Thank you for making PNWNP an AWESOME place to share and grow as nature photographers!!

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Posted by Jeremy Cram on October 1, 2006 at 2:26 PM
Do you want it formatted like that? I can't see it mattering that much if all the info is there, just curious. I'll do whatever.

Posted by Rick Lamb on October 1, 2006 at 11:33 PM
The format is of your choosing Jeremy as long as the basics are there - Camera, lens, exposure etc...
Posted by Doyle Thomas on October 2, 2006 at 2:59 AM
My preference is to allow the work to speak for itself. While I do record technical data and include it on my Print lables attached to the backside I don't consider it important. The camera only interfers by being between the Photographer and the subject. Aside from the image itself the only things that may be useful to me are when and where. Hopefully, why will be obvious. If you need to explain (which may be needed in photo-journalism or portrait work) an image of the landscape then I believe that it has failed.
While I am more than happy to answer questions about my work, with your permission I will continue to post without comment. I have reviewed the guidelines and note that posting techincal info is listed as a "tip" and not a requirment.
Posted by Doyle Thomas on October 2, 2006 at 3:03 AM
My preference is to allow the work to speak for itself. While I do record technical data and include it on my Print lables attached to the backside I don't consider it important. Aside from the image itself the only things that may be useful to me are when and where. Hopefully, why will be obvious. If you need to explain (which may be needed in photo-journalism or portrait work) an image of the landscape then I believe that it has failed.
While I am more than happy to answer questions about my work, with your permission I will continue to post without comment. I have reviewed the guidelines and note that posting techincal info is listed as a "tip" and not a requirment.
Posted by eric lee on October 2, 2006 at 10:46 AM
......and then there are some of us who maybe just once or twice fail to maintain a notebook for all these details.....and might like to claim a philosophical objection but really and truthfully are too lazy or too busy in the field.....well, with all of God's universe to try & fit through a tiny aperture & into a dark box, who wouldn't be??

Doyle: I'm not sure I could agree with your belief that the camera interferes by being "between the photographer & the subject." I find it enhances, by allowing new ways to see things. I guess the camera can become much more of a presence if you use all its computerized modes &c &c &c.....which is why I keep everything strictly manual and view the camera as a box with an aperture, rather than a cyber-presence with whom to discuss things. Then again, if I'd learn that stuff, I might find yet some new ways of seeing things. Kind of like ir or tungsten film, I guess....
Posted by Doyle Thomas on October 2, 2006 at 1:45 PM
Eric,
Have you ever done a Wedding for a Frend? I have found that to do so requires a level of detatchment that inhibits particapation in the event. You can watch the Sun set and just enjoy it or you can Photograph. Setup, position, focus, exposure and Mind set all interfere with just enjoying the experence. The joy comes later if you are sucessful in producing a resut that mimics the experence using a camera. Because of the limitations of the camera no Photograph can be more than an allogory of that experence. The real goal is to attempt to record what you feel rather than what you see, then impart that feeling to the viewer. To do that you must think and see as the camera does. All that technical stuff represents the tools avalible to achive the goal.


Posted by Erik Lundh on October 2, 2006 at 4:56 PM
What we all have to remember is alot of us are here to learn and expand as photographers. This would be a pretty useless forum If everybody just posted images without any camera info, settings, explanation, technique ect.. We have to remember this isn't just an online photo gallery, It's a place to "share" and "learn". Take Marc Adamus as an example. He shares everything about his images and gives a large explanation with each one. I've noticed alot of folks picking up on his techniques and locations and it's made them better photographers.
Posted by Rick Lamb on October 2, 2006 at 6:33 PM
I fully agree with my fellow moderator - image info is a huge learning tool. I post images for two reasons:

To get feedback on my own works in progress

To give educational information for others

The more information I can provide for others on my work the more opportunity there is for others to learn from both my successes and my failures. Speaking for myself the learning process never ends and it this ongoing education that I find keeps me intrigued as a photographer.

And the bottom line is this is clearly requested in the Posting Guidelines for NPN.
Posted by Doyle Thomas on October 3, 2006 at 12:06 PM
In order to get the most out of this process, providing information about your photo is crucial. For every photo you post, consider including the following information;

Requested, not required.

I don't want to make a big issue on this. The free exchange of informaton between like Minded people is a valued resource. Technical info is data. From data we get information, from information we gain knowledge, from knowledge we acquire wisdom.
Posted by Erik Lundh on October 3, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Doyle,
I may not agree with but I respect your opinion. What you contribute and gain from the forum, within the rules, Is your personal choice. :toast: