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Hahnemühle tips

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Posted by Prashant Khapane on October 31, 2006 at 3:45 PM
I recently got Hahnemühle paper (308 photo rag). Test prints are washed out and lack contrast. Am I doing anything wrong?
Everything else is as I normally do with Epson Luster paper and prints look fine with that paper.
Posted by Guy Tal on October 31, 2006 at 3:51 PM
What profile are you using with it?

Guy
Posted by Prashant Khapane on October 31, 2006 at 4:02 PM
http://www.hahnemuehle.com/site/de/203/epson.html
donwloaded from here. I also checked for 'right' surface with the moist finger test. I just made a test print with their Fine Art pearl which is similar to Luster I guess and prints look fine. :confused:
Posted by Prashant Khapane on October 31, 2006 at 4:06 PM
and I have 2100 Epson-
Posted by Guy Tal on October 31, 2006 at 4:54 PM
Hmm... I'm assuming you're using Relative Colorimetric conversion with Black Point Compensation and using Matte Black ink in your printer?

Guy
Posted by Prashant Khapane on October 31, 2006 at 5:12 PM
:redface: Oh, am having Photoblack inside the printer as of now. And am using 'Relative Colorimetric conversion with Black Point Compensation'. Do I need to replace photo Black with Matte Black everytime I use a 'matt' paper like Photorag? Or Mk/Pk profiles won't work? Is it not waste of ink then?
Posted by Guy Tal on October 31, 2006 at 5:36 PM
MK profiles are specifically created for matte black. I saw some profiles for matte paper with Photo Black but the results are rarely as good.

Guy
Posted by Rick Dunn on November 1, 2006 at 10:11 AM
Just to be sure, I'd suggest taking a sheet, cutting into 5x7 or 4x6 pieces, and print on both sides. It can be very difficult to tell which is the printing surface.

For test prints, I had cut up a 13x19 sheet into a variety of pieces, then lost track of which side was the printing side and had a couple come out very washed out. Printing on the wrong side will yield a print that is washed out/pale for all colors. If it's just the blacks that are giving you trouble, this most likely isn't the problem; but if the whole image is washed out, that could certainly be it.
Posted by Prashant Khapane on November 1, 2006 at 11:06 AM
Rick,
I will check it out. I guess that might also be the reason.
Posted by Michael E. Gordon on November 1, 2006 at 11:27 AM
Prashant: you can obviously make prints with Photo Black, but it is NOT the right ink for Photorag. Replace it with Matte Black and you're going to see a world of difference.

There are ink-swap workarounds with the large format printers, but I don't know about the desktop's.
Posted by Prashant Khapane on November 8, 2006 at 8:13 AM
I made some BW prints with this paper last night, and guess am getting a hang of it. And also why people call it 'part photo, part painting' thing. I might try some color prints tonight.
Last time, I got some 'detail' problems with it. The prints on HM-Pearl paper were sharp with lots of details same shot on photorag looked like 'water color' painting. Lets see. If I like the results then I might go for a special profile.