10.1 Megapixel APS-H CMOS sensor
10 fps continuous shooting for up to 110 frames
Dual “DIGIC III” processors
New auto focus system with 19 cross type sensors
EOS Integrated Cleaning System
ISO 3200 (expandable to H:6400)
3.0” LCD with Live View mode
Wider, brighter viewfinder
It looks quite awesome...I expected FF, other than that, I really like it, and I plan to get it as soon as it is available
Posted by Garth McElroy on February 22, 2007 at 5:45 AM
Aside from a few nice features I don't see a HUGE improvement over the MII. Time will tell and I'd rather have seen more MP than 10fps. Probably the most significant feature is the AF but then again I've never had any issues with the MII focus!
I have to agree, the lack of increase in MP may cause problems re Agencies.
I think Canon are trying to re-differentate market sectors - for this market sector (nature) these are not huge improvements; that said the AF sensors and calibration are much appreciated however, as these features may (probably will) be incorporated into any forthcoming replacement of the 1Ds2 - I think I will wait a while.
Posted by Ott Luuk on February 22, 2007 at 6:31 AM
While not that big a jump from the Mk II, it seems like a reasonable update, especially that they shaved 220g off the weight and delivered some user interface features that photographers had been asking for a long time.
This is obviously THE camera for sports and news/pj photographers. (fps, AF, live view for shooting one handed over heads, WiFi integration, high ISO performance, extended dynamic range). And very good news for people looking to buy a second hand Mk II.
Canon also reworked the 16-35/2.8L. It now takes 82mm filters . They say corner performance is much improved.
Posted by Kah Kit Yoong on February 22, 2007 at 7:24 AM
Yes I saw the announcement too. My 5D was pronounced dead from saltwater corrosion 6 months ago yet it has been working fine as you can see. I do realize that it may have a truncated life so I have been eagerly awaiting new announcements. This is not the one I have been waiting for, perhaps a worthy upgrade sports photographers, but I certainly wouldn't want one over a new 5D. I am presuming all future upgrades will have this sensor cleaning system. Judging by the increment from 8 to 10 megapixels, I doubt we'll see any appreciable increase in resolution of the 5DII or 1DSIII. I just bought a 16-35mm 2.8L a few months back so I am not that very happy that it will be replaced by a version with much better corner sharpness.
Posted by Josh Anderson on February 22, 2007 at 8:39 AM
10 MP and a full frame sensor? I am a little disappointed.
Posted by Steve Foss on February 22, 2007 at 9:05 AM
Josh, it's not full frame, according to my reading. It's the same size as the sensor on the current 1D Mk2n, and has a 1.3 crop factor. Puts it mid-way between the APS-C and full frame sensors. The promotional material also touts a new technology that makes each pixel more sensitive to light.
I agree it's a smashing update for sports folks, and an excellent body for many nature photographers, though landscape photographers in particular have good reason not to get very excited about it.
Posted by Buck Ward on February 22, 2007 at 9:37 AM
I've been hoarding my pennies in anticipation of this announcement.
I'll be happy with the 1.3 crop factor. Full frame would probably have had a higher price tag associated with it, and perhaps from Canon's point of view, it would have competed with the 1Ds. If and when I get a full frame camera, I expect that I'll need to upgrade from my 300 f2.8. Living near Ding Darling, Estero Lagoon, and other such places, 300mm plus TCs has usually been long enough for me (sometimes too long) with a 1.6 crop-factor camera.
It's time for me to upgrade my camera. If Canon had not announced the 1D mark III, I would have had to choose between buying a MkIIN - an aging version, selecting a different body, or waitng another half year. So this is good news to me.
Thanks for sharing the news, Juza.
Posted by William Lloyd on February 22, 2007 at 9:42 AM
Boy, I dunno, you guys - the pixel increase is the least thing to get excited about in a VERY exciting camera - still 1.3 crop, now with the pixel size of the 1Ds2, but it's a whole new level of technology. Increase from 7 to 19 cross-type autofocus sensors, with a new redistribution across the field instead of concentrated in the center, this alone is a birders' dream - not to mention the increase in bit depth from 12 to 14 bit.
Image quality improvements over the EOS-1D Mark II N are as follows:
• Higher resolution with 10.10 megapixels versus 8.2
• Improved gradation with 14-bit A/D conversion and DIGIC III
• ISO 3200 now within the standard ISO setting range, thanks to an improved sensor
signal-to-noise ratio and DIGIC III
• Noise reduction provided for high ISO speeds (C. Fn II -2-1)
• Noise prone to occur at high ISO speeds is reduced
• At low ISO speeds, noise in the shadow areas is further reduced
• Priority for highlight detail can be set (C. Fn II -3-1)
• Image detail from the grays to highlights is improved and loss of highlight detail
is reduced
Check it out:http://www.robgalbraith.com/public_files/Canon_EOS-1D_Mark_III_White_Paper.pdf
Posted by Robert Scholl on February 22, 2007 at 10:58 AM
The AF micro adjustment feature and self cleaning sensor look like a great additions. The improvement in highlight details will be a great improvement also.
Posted by Josh Anderson on February 22, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Thanks for the clarification guys. I am glad to hear that it's not full frame. I guess I will have to get it. Sweeeeet!!!
Posted by Tom Grey on February 22, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Ok, with all the new features -- and with 8 ounces less weight from Li-ion, yay! -- I'm ready to buy my first 1-series. Increased sore shoulder, more keepers from better AF on the birdies...
Posted by Jacco Rens on February 22, 2007 at 1:19 PM
The 14bit RAW is probably the best feature I can think of, this brings way better control over even colored subject, like blue/orange skies, when converted to 16bit tiff.
Posted by Ed Dubois on February 22, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Hooray - we're all going to be better photographers now too
Seriously though this looks like it'll have some excellent features for bird shooting with the improved ISO performance and the autofocus changes. I also do a lot of sports shooting and the live view feature on the lcd sounds like it could be a big help for high speed in-close action. And I do love the weight loss! 10fps and a bigger buffer is nice too as is the brighter viewfinder.
All that being said I think I'll wait until the first batch has been out in the field for a while and the first production line and software problems have been identified and dealt with.
Posted by Don Miller on February 22, 2007 at 2:43 PM
A nice look at the details on Canon Japan's web (in English):
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/html/top.html
Posted by Tom Grey on February 22, 2007 at 3:55 PM
Cindy says:
Ed says:'Hooray - we're all going to be better photographers now too'
can I get that in writing Ed?
Cindy, if you check the pictures of the new camera, you'll notice a gold-plated "decisive moment" button on the back...
Posted by Don Miller on February 22, 2007 at 4:13 PM
There's also a "Moderator's Pick" coupon with the camera. If the camera is purchased with a 2.8 supertele, that coupon may be upgraded to an "Avian Moderator's Pick" coupon.
But the 'gin' button on the prototype never materialized. I heard was it was user programmable with CF31-3 being 'bourbon". Oh well.
Posted by Steve Foss on February 22, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Well, and where's that "guaranteed market" button I've been hearing about? Automatically contacts a stable of photo editors around the world and assures an 80 percent sell rate or your money back. Can't Canon get anything right?
Posted by Ed Dubois on February 22, 2007 at 9:33 PM
Gee I guess I'm not the only one with cabin fever!
I'm particularly taken with the self-charging battery feature (that I'm sure was left off the review by accident) as well as the self switching memory cards so the decisive moment button will always work. Rumour has it that folks who own this camera are also generally believed to be better looking
Posted by Steve Foss on February 22, 2007 at 10:09 PM
"Rumour has it that folks who own this camera are also generally believed to be better looking."
Whew, that's a relief. So I've got that to look forward to.
Posted by Ed Cordes on February 22, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Wow! This looks great to me. More MP on the 1.3 crop I like best. The same pixle density as the 1Ds MKII, 14 bit processing, better AF, better highlight control, larger LCD, more sensitive pixles with better lensing, Li battery, lighter weight, 10 fps, Digi III processing, and on and on. I want one!!! I will wait until summer to ensure the first batch is out then order mine so I get at least batch #2.
This new camera does not get me exited at all. It's all about speed i.e a high frame rate, but most of us don't shoot sports so..
For what I need, it is inferior to my 5D: less megapix, smaller sensor, presumably worse noise performance (just a speculation) and it costs the double price (considering the recent street-price of the 5D and the assumed price of the new one).
This thingy does not make sense for a landscape photographer.
I am rather curious about that new wide-angle lens, as the Canon-lenses in the wide-angle region got some mixed reviews....
Posted by Ed Dubois on February 23, 2007 at 1:33 PM
I don't think you can have one Cindy, or two, because you're already a better photographer. {And that's in writing!} Maybe the eye center will give you one as a thank-you for all your business
Posted by Don Miller on February 23, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Cindy, the eye center probably figures first you have to be able to find them before they'll give you a refund. :) It's kinda a catch 22 for you. Seriously, did you have a big correction? I know someone with a very big correction that took much longer than four months to be somewhat happy with the results. But I'm sure it's no fun paying money to have serious vision issues.
Back on topic, it will be very interesting to see if the 1DIII has meaningfully better AF for birders. I have one or order with a late March delivery. I can identify at least a half dozen birds. Watch out Avian forum.
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23 replieshttp://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022208canoneos1dmarkiii.asp
10.1 Megapixel APS-H CMOS sensor
10 fps continuous shooting for up to 110 frames
Dual “DIGIC III” processors
New auto focus system with 19 cross type sensors
EOS Integrated Cleaning System
ISO 3200 (expandable to H:6400)
3.0” LCD with Live View mode
Wider, brighter viewfinder
It looks quite awesome...I expected FF, other than that, I really like it, and I plan to get it as soon as it is available
I think Canon are trying to re-differentate market sectors - for this market sector (nature) these are not huge improvements; that said the AF sensors and calibration are much appreciated however, as these features may (probably will) be incorporated into any forthcoming replacement of the 1Ds2 - I think I will wait a while.
This is obviously THE camera for sports and news/pj photographers. (fps, AF, live view for shooting one handed over heads, WiFi integration, high ISO performance, extended dynamic range). And very good news for people looking to buy a second hand Mk II.
Canon also reworked the 16-35/2.8L. It now takes 82mm filters
I agree it's a smashing update for sports folks, and an excellent body for many nature photographers, though landscape photographers in particular have good reason not to get very excited about it.
I'll be happy with the 1.3 crop factor. Full frame would probably have had a higher price tag associated with it, and perhaps from Canon's point of view, it would have competed with the 1Ds. If and when I get a full frame camera, I expect that I'll need to upgrade from my 300 f2.8. Living near Ding Darling, Estero Lagoon, and other such places, 300mm plus TCs has usually been long enough for me (sometimes too long) with a 1.6 crop-factor camera.
It's time for me to upgrade my camera. If Canon had not announced the 1D mark III, I would have had to choose between buying a MkIIN - an aging version, selecting a different body, or waitng another half year. So this is good news to me.
Thanks for sharing the news, Juza.
Image quality improvements over the EOS-1D Mark II N are as follows:
• Higher resolution with 10.10 megapixels versus 8.2
• Improved gradation with 14-bit A/D conversion and DIGIC III
• ISO 3200 now within the standard ISO setting range, thanks to an improved sensor
signal-to-noise ratio and DIGIC III
• Noise reduction provided for high ISO speeds (C. Fn II -2-1)
• Noise prone to occur at high ISO speeds is reduced
• At low ISO speeds, noise in the shadow areas is further reduced
• Priority for highlight detail can be set (C. Fn II -3-1)
• Image detail from the grays to highlights is improved and loss of highlight detail
is reduced
Check it out:http://www.robgalbraith.com/public_files/Canon_EOS-1D_Mark_III_White_Paper.pdf
Seriously though this looks like it'll have some excellent features for bird shooting with the improved ISO performance and the autofocus changes. I also do a lot of sports shooting and the live view feature on the lcd sounds like it could be a big help for high speed in-close action. And I do love the weight loss! 10fps and a bigger buffer is nice too as is the brighter viewfinder.
All that being said I think I'll wait until the first batch has been out in the field for a while and the first production line and software problems have been identified and dealt with.
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/html/top.html
Cindy, if you check the pictures of the new camera, you'll notice a gold-plated "decisive moment" button on the back...
But the 'gin' button on the prototype never materialized. I heard was it was user programmable with CF31-3 being 'bourbon". Oh well.
I'm particularly taken with the self-charging battery feature (that I'm sure was left off the review by accident) as well as the self switching memory cards so the decisive moment button will always work. Rumour has it that folks who own this camera are also generally believed to be better looking
Whew, that's a relief. So I've got that to look forward to.
For what I need, it is inferior to my 5D: less megapix, smaller sensor, presumably worse noise performance (just a speculation) and it costs the double price (considering the recent street-price of the 5D and the assumed price of the new one).
This thingy does not make sense for a landscape photographer.
I am rather curious about that new wide-angle lens, as the Canon-lenses in the wide-angle region got some mixed reviews....
Back on topic, it will be very interesting to see if the 1DIII has meaningfully better AF for birders. I have one or order with a late March delivery. I can identify at least a half dozen birds. Watch out Avian forum.