Hi Guys,
Can anyone offer some guidance on what charge I should make for non-exclusive use of an quarter page image for a childrens book all North American editions, English only and quarter page?
A little research on the topic yielded $350 but I'm a little unsure as to whether the requirement for all North American editions should influence this.
It depends on many factors including where in the book, what size, where published, book 'type', country(ies) it will be published in, how many copies, etc etc.
Based on what you say (and quarter page doesn't help too much - quarter page of what size ) then I think you would be doing quite well to get $350
Barrie is right - what you could do as a simple test for yourself (and assuming you can answer the questions he's posed) is go on to Alamy's website and work through the process of getting them to quote for a similarly based image - it all happens online and is instant on the site.
If you haven't got the answers then ask the publisher - it's the only basis on which you can quote and how librarys do.
A couple of other Q's you need to have answered as they affect the pricing:
1) Duration (5yrs, 10yrs, 15yrs)
2) Childrens book - is that Educational (eg text book), or straightfoward 'retail' (eg Harry Potter)?
3) Print run size (10K, 50K, 250K etc)
4) Number of bind-ups (hardback, softback, compilation)
BTW, you don't need the exact size of printing, up to 1/4 page is OK.
A couple of things from dealing with foreign currency....
Is the publisher Uk or US based? If in the UK, quote them in £'s and leave it at that.
If in the US, then quote them in £'s too...why? Because that way you get the price you want, and the buyer is the one who has to deal with fluctuating exchange rates. If you quote in $ then that's what they'll pay $x - irrespective of exchange rate fluctuations . I've quoted in $ before and lost out to the exchange rate fluctuations .
Good points Nick, I'll address them if and when they respond back to me although I fear I've already missed the boat on the currency conversion. I have asked a number of those questions but they were very vague in their response giving me only the information I indicated in the original post which just makes me a little wary, probably unnecessarily.
Don't worry about it John, sometimes getting back to them with a few added questions using terminology that they know, and that make it look like you have done it before can work wonders . It can make the all the difference between appearing professional instead of amateur - and that's what you want to be seen as.
They do need to (eventually) tell you the print run and duration. In the absence of that info you can still quote them by saying something like:
License for use in Softback Childrens Book; 1/4 page; N American Region; English Language Only; Non-Exclusive use; 10yr duration:
Print Run to 50K $x
to 100K $x+
to 250K $x++
to 500K $x+++
If you would like details for other durations, print runs or for Hardcover then please let me know and I'll work out some more details for you.
That way you're giving them some info, telling them you can't finalise the quote ('cause they haven't given you all the details), and leaving the door open for them to provide you with more details. Sometimes the picture researcher doesn't have all the details yet - often the bindings, runs, regions and duration may not be decided until just before the book goes to press, so there's no need to get too hung up on them at the moment.
Don't worry too much if they don't always respond immediately - dealing with book publishers can be a slow process, and it can take a year or more from first enquiries to printing and payment
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8 repliesCan anyone offer some guidance on what charge I should make for non-exclusive use of an quarter page image for a childrens book all North American editions, English only and quarter page?
A little research on the topic yielded $350 but I'm a little unsure as to whether the requirement for all North American editions should influence this.
Regards
JohnS
Based on what you say (and quarter page doesn't help too much - quarter page of what size
Good Luck
Barrie
If you haven't got the answers then ask the publisher - it's the only basis on which you can quote and how librarys do.
A second vote for good luck!!
Mark
Regards
JohnS
A couple of other Q's you need to have answered as they affect the pricing:
1) Duration (5yrs, 10yrs, 15yrs)
2) Childrens book - is that Educational (eg text book), or straightfoward 'retail' (eg Harry Potter)?
3) Print run size (10K, 50K, 250K etc)
4) Number of bind-ups (hardback, softback, compilation)
BTW, you don't need the exact size of printing, up to 1/4 page is OK.
A couple of things from dealing with foreign currency....
Is the publisher Uk or US based? If in the UK, quote them in £'s and leave it at that.
If in the US, then quote them in £'s too...why? Because that way you get the price you want, and the buyer is the one who has to deal with fluctuating exchange rates. If you quote in $ then that's what they'll pay $x - irrespective of exchange rate fluctuations
HTH & good luck.
Regards
JohnS
http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm
It is a useful guide.
They do need to (eventually) tell you the print run and duration. In the absence of that info you can still quote them by saying something like:
That way you're giving them some info, telling them you can't finalise the quote ('cause they haven't given you all the details), and leaving the door open for them to provide you with more details. Sometimes the picture researcher doesn't have all the details yet - often the bindings, runs, regions and duration may not be decided until just before the book goes to press, so there's no need to get too hung up on them at the moment.
Don't worry too much if they don't always respond immediately - dealing with book publishers can be a slow process, and it can take a year or more from first enquiries to printing and payment
Regards
JohnS