There is still some detail in the whites on the flank, so would'nt worry to much. I love the colour and texture of the water. A shot like this does need to be from a lower view point though really, if it possible from this site and you are a regular visitor, it would be well worth having another go.
Yup, an Oly 330 or Panasonic L1 both have live-view screens that swing out from the body as with cinecams and would make this method of shooting entirely feasible and Oly E system mirror lock is on a timer system not double shutter depression, making it even easier - no shutter release cable required.
The forthcoming Oly P-1 if released in the PMA format will be identical in operation........ the Canon 1DIII anounced at PMA has live-view, but only through the fixed rear LCD screen so it cannot be used as a macro focus aid in place of Anglefinder-C when shooting "chin in the mud".
Posted by Andy Astbury on March 13, 2007 at 4:16 PM
I wouldn't like to try and focus anything via a preview screen - they are just not good enough.
The Canon does give you one real killer of a facility though with the live view histogram -MIGHTY USEFUL - do you know if the Oly will offer the same facility??
Posted by Paul Thomas on March 13, 2007 at 5:05 PM
I wouldn't like to try and focus anything via a preview screen - they are just not good enough.
You can enlarge a specific portion of the image up to 10x to help focusing (I think the IDMk3 can too). Interestingly someone who tried the new Olympus 410 and 510 said they can AF off the sensor as well as using the usual AF mechanism.
The Canon does give you one real killer of a facility though with the live view histogram -MIGHTY USEFUL - do you know if the Oly will offer the same facility??
Olympus are being frustratingly tight lipped about such things.
The Oly 330 has dual live-view, mode A and B - there are two live view sensors split by the focus mirrors (it is a rangefinder style not pentamirror focus housing), this allows AF in live view, although this early live-view technology has been dropped in the more conventional styled 410/510 as there is not room for two sensors
The 410/510 and presumably forthcoming P1 has live-view directly off the main image sensor and have no secondary sensor. This allows full time manual focus off the sensor with zoom in magnification stated to be up to x14 for critical focussing, although in reality this is a fudged x10 mag. crop. The cameras will AF in live-view but the mirror has to drop to allow AF during which time live view is masked off - the same will be with the Canon system, both manufacturers have the AF sensors in the body floor and require the secondary mirror to project the image onto the AF sensors - reports of AF directly off the sensor is just hogwash and mixing the 330 and new camera technologies
There is a mini preview on Phil Askeys DPReview of a pre production 410 live-view in operation including a demonstartion of the AF time lag as the mirror swings up and down.
Regards liveview histograms - yes Oly have this in the new bodies as well
Speaking of Oly technology...
Just been browsing my Oly 500 instruction leaflet - who ever reads them fully these days eh? and have found that Oly have sneaked in a focus bracketing function, I missed this function when buying the body, as far as I am aware no other manufacturer has this technology? - I can see uses in macro work to extend the depth of focus in a shallow aperture to maintain subject isolation and then selectively mask in Pshop, the function runs either 5 or 7 frames bracketed 1 or 2 "steps", I will have a play over the weekend to see what this actually does in reality......
Posted by Mary C Legg on March 14, 2007 at 6:00 AM
I have many very creative suggestions for the shot, but not one of them techie. I agree that greylag poo is the limit, but you might try a wet suit, snorkel and periscope system with macro surgical lens for closer view like the ones they use to photo congested arteries-- and other than that no constructive suggestion at all. and I knew that you would be very open to these very perspicacious suggestions. I really try my best, but fail anyway to impress the world with my sagacity. other than that, great pic. loved it and have a good day. "beware of the greylag poo" ought to be a new catch phrase.
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10 repliesOlympus E-1, 150mm F2, iso 200, monopod
There is still some detail in the whites on the flank, so would'nt worry to much. I love the colour and texture of the water. A shot like this does need to be from a lower view point though really, if it possible from this site and you are a regular visitor, it would be well worth having another go.
Regards
Rob
Like the colours and those whites are hard to expose with so much black around, but lower's better
The forthcoming Oly P-1 if released in the PMA format will be identical in operation........ the Canon 1DIII anounced at PMA has live-view, but only through the fixed rear LCD screen so it cannot be used as a macro focus aid in place of Anglefinder-C when shooting "chin in the mud".
The Canon does give you one real killer of a facility though with the live view histogram -MIGHTY USEFUL - do you know if the Oly will offer the same facility??
You can enlarge a specific portion of the image up to 10x to help focusing (I think the IDMk3 can too). Interestingly someone who tried the new Olympus 410 and 510 said they can AF off the sensor as well as using the usual AF mechanism.
Olympus are being frustratingly tight lipped about such things.
Paul
The 410/510 and presumably forthcoming P1 has live-view directly off the main image sensor and have no secondary sensor. This allows full time manual focus off the sensor with zoom in magnification stated to be up to x14 for critical focussing, although in reality this is a fudged x10 mag. crop. The cameras will AF in live-view but the mirror has to drop to allow AF during which time live view is masked off - the same will be with the Canon system, both manufacturers have the AF sensors in the body floor and require the secondary mirror to project the image onto the AF sensors - reports of AF directly off the sensor is just hogwash and mixing the 330 and new camera technologies
There is a mini preview on Phil Askeys DPReview of a pre production 410 live-view in operation including a demonstartion of the AF time lag as the mirror swings up and down.
Regards liveview histograms - yes Oly have this in the new bodies as well
Speaking of Oly technology...
Just been browsing my Oly 500 instruction leaflet - who ever reads them fully these days eh? and have found that Oly have sneaked in a focus bracketing function, I missed this function when buying the body, as far as I am aware no other manufacturer has this technology? - I can see uses in macro work to extend the depth of focus in a shallow aperture to maintain subject isolation and then selectively mask in Pshop, the function runs either 5 or 7 frames bracketed 1 or 2 "steps", I will have a play over the weekend to see what this actually does in reality......