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Another GOG moonset

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Posted by John Klotz on May 10, 2007 at 12:04 AM
Another GOG moonset
This one was taken 1/6/07 at 7:30 am. This is almost straight out of the camera with just minor tweaks to sat, contast and little blur added to smooth out the sky a bit. I found this last night after discussing how over-done GOG photos are with acouple of other folks.
Critique welcome and appreciated.
John
Posted by Mel Ladewig on May 10, 2007 at 12:28 AM
John,

I'm not sure what happened but the colors appear way off on my monitor. A very strong yellow cast is present.

Compositionally, I think that a crop is in order. There is too much blue sky. Maybe half way between the top of the frame and the moon.

Its been a while since the weather would permit a garden moonset shot.

Mel-
Posted by John Klotz on May 10, 2007 at 1:19 AM
Mel, thanks for confirming the yellow cast. It does look sickly on my monitor too. Shots a half hour later don't exhibit this color cast and I have tried everything I can think of to correct it and it won't clear up. I am using PSE5 so if anyone has any thoughts I am considering this a learning thing. I agree on the crop but if I don't get the color right that is a moot issue.
Thanks!
John
Posted by Derek Sedillo on May 10, 2007 at 10:21 AM
John,

I like the shot but agree with Mel about the cast and potential crop of negative space. Here is what I would do.
1. Change the color temperature during raw conversion
2. After conversion in a new layer use levels and the white and/or gray balance eye dropper within levels. Just keep picking a part of the image until the rest of it looks more natural/less yellow. The snow on the hill in the foreground would be a good area to start.

- Derek
Posted by Mel Ladewig on May 10, 2007 at 10:32 AM
I find that my camera has problems with auto white balance at GOTG. I've have green snow before. It seems like you need to instruct the camera to use daylight white balance to get the color results right.

I would definitely try this from RAW conversion if you took a RAW version of the pic. I use Elements 3. In the Elements ACR I'd suggest picking "daylight" and then working from there. If you're using Canon, you'll probably need to drop the purple tint 2-3 steps from the default in ACR. If I were to guess, the color balance is set at too low of a temperature and the green tint slider has moved to the right.

If you didn't shoot in RAW, then I would suggest (as dumb as it sounds) that you use the quick fix page in the Elements editor. Try clicking the auto button on the color section of the palette. If that doesn't work, then undo, and use the temperature and tint sliders to mimmick what is done in ACR. Since it came from a jpg, you won't have as much latitude for correction, but it might help.
Posted by Mel Ladewig on May 10, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Actually a hue shift seems to correct the problem better than a color temperature fix. I usually have more problems with Color Temp and tint than hue. Strange.

Shift the hue to -10 to -15 on the master channel and it should help.
Posted by Derek Sedillo on May 10, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Yes, I agree about the GoG white balance.

It is one of the hardest places to get correct, especially at sunrise. My 10D's auto white balance plays funny tricks on me some days.


Posted by Don Eason on May 10, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Hi, John. I think maybe the yellow is not too STRONG but too YELLOW, green's next-door neighbor. Try a modest gamma reduction (to 0.85 maybe) of the green channel to nudge the yellows toward sunrise gold. This will have an effect on the yellows similar to that of a hue shift, but without making your sky more green as a hue shift would do. As always, Your Monitor May Vary.
Posted by James H Egbert on May 10, 2007 at 7:29 PM
his is the first time 'm seeing a yrellow cast in somweone elses shot. I didn't mean topass the torch! Like thecomposition though!
Posted by John Klotz on May 10, 2007 at 8:29 PM
It was shot RAW, Auto WB. I converted to TIFF. I played with it some in PSE5 late last night using PSE5 quick fix. I had to drag the quick fix slider all the way to the right before the snow turned white. The right edge still had the strong cast to it though. I will try the various suggestions here. James next time you pass the torch remind me to duck! :biggrin:
Thanks everyone! When I get it right I will post again.
John