The current $-£ exchange price at Canons $7999 guide is approx £4020. So Park Cameras suggested figure of approx £5974 is approx $11,881 some $3800 more than the USA, but to be fair thay do say it is TBC so lets hope that when it is confirmed it has dropped significantly otherwise welcome to Rip off Britain.
T
Posted by Sean Bolton on August 20, 2007 at 5:44 AM
The specs on the 40D look very nice, and the 1Dsmk3 gets the long awaited upgrade to 20+ megapixels.
I hope the updated 5D is not too far away, with a full frame version of the sensor in the 1Dmk3, plus the features of the 40D.
Whilst the new camera bodies look great I am disappointed with the new lenses. What is the new 14 L all about??
Where is the 24-70 with IS, updated 70-200 F2.8 (with latest IS), and updated 100-400 L?
I think Nikon also have some announcements shortly so looking forward to see what they announce, maybe they finally get a full frame camera?
The current $-£ exchange price at Canons $7999 guide is approx £4020. So Park Cameras suggested figure of approx £5974 is approx £2K more than the USA, but to be fair thay do say it is TBC so lets hope that when it is confirmed it has dropped significantly otherwise welcome to Rip off Britain.
If that is going to be the street price then the answer is simple.... snub Canon Europe and the british sellers and give the chancellor's trade deficit a drubbing...import the gear. It isn't difficult these days.
To be fair, the RRP of the 1Ds2 was £6K and 3 months after the launch I bought it for £4.5K ... the market for this cameras is a less than a 10th of the 1D3.
I also think the market of 1Ds2 owners will not be that eager for a instantious move to this camera for the 1Ds2 its still 16.7MP and has virtually no noise (well none that Neat Image cannot eliminate) up 640 ASA. The 'live view' and an extra 1 fps would be nice but hardy a reason to splash 'even more' cash early.
No doubt I will move to a 1D3 or a 1Ds3 ... but, owning a 1Ds2, I ain't in a hurry and I definately want to see a report on its focus capabilities first .
Its better being 'Leading Edge' not 'Bleeding Edge'
Posted by Andy Astbury on August 20, 2007 at 7:33 AM
21.1 meg - that would equate to around 14 meg on a nikon-sized sensor so I can't see its' resolution making a lot of folk VERY excited.
But I hope it kicks Nikon up the backside to address their crappy iso noise performance
Posted by Paul Gibbs on August 20, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Wow, thats some pixel pitch, 6.4 µm, is the same as the 30D, so apart from improved inchip noise removal, and improved chip manufacturing, how well will it handle noise?
Nice camera... i'm still happy with the D200 though.
Posted by Larry Corbett on August 20, 2007 at 12:42 PM
6K for thro-away technology...
Posted by Mark Sisson on August 20, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Another one here who won't be rushing to change from his 1DS Mk2 - all nice to have's imo.
Now when they combine the IDMk3 speed with at least the resolution of the IDSMk2 then that's the time to really consider things
I wrote this in my blog last night after Amazon possibly leaked...
The king is dead, long live the King
Well the King is dead, the 1Ds2 has a successor and its credentials are fair.
Whilst I don't want the 1Ds3, I have a 1Ds2, when the 1Ds3 becomes available I will buy it. I don't really want to buy it as the expected £4.5K ($8K) for the body it is a big ask!
The issue is, that if I don't start shooting with 'the latest and greatest', the agencies may not accept my work as readily as those, of a similar ability, who do have the latest and greatest. This is a completely ignorant act by the agencies; historically they have used the camera as a differentiator of your ability as well as your presented work. Simply put, but wrongly assumed, Pixels == perception of perfection. I see no movement from the agencies to change this - why should they?
Whats worse, if I don't move within 2 generations of camera time-line, as a nature photographer, I will be very much disadvantaged - the market is that competitive and my comrades are nearly as good.
This is an artifact of the digital age. Five years ago I was shooting with the cream of the 35mm world, a Nikon F5, it cost £1300, and because a canister supplementary to the camera captured the light, regardless of the camera body technology, if your results where a match with the next person providing you had a similar shot.
Now days there is nothing supplementary about what captures the light, a sensor! Sensor integration means the whole body has to be replaced. Sensors mean wiring; wiring that may (will) be different from release to release hence making backward compatibility a wistful dream and a 'plug in' sensor a mirage. It is more of a computer than a camera!
In this digital age the life span for commercial work of anything computer is, at max, 5 years. I had the F5 for 7 years before I came to the 'light' side and if digital had not happen I would probably still have it as a second body.
I do depreciate my cameras as I do my computers, over 3 years which roughly happens to be their release cycle; a co-incidence? This hits my profits as market prices have not increased since the market went digital (they have decreased via increase competition), but without buying the new camera, within 3 more years, I would not have enough pixels to satisfy the agencies, therefore make any profit, and therefore have no money to buy the next king.
The king is dead, long live the king - (5 years would be nice this time).
That said it may still be a 1D3 (depends on agency reaction) hence why no rush on my behalf.
T
Posted by Larry Corbett on August 20, 2007 at 2:52 PM
It's like my website ... off line... but I use the blog and keep it up to date (although I have archived most of it recently) for when it goes back on-line (someday).
Sorry.
T
Posted by Paul Gibbs on August 20, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Hmm interesting to see a professional's point of view. It does make me wonder though.
Pre digital, it didnt matter if you shot an EOS 1V or an EOS 1, the difference now though seems to be "personal image" over "personal ability". It marks the difference i guess between many of us on here i guess.
I shoot for my passion of wildlife, i have no agencies to please only my own desires, i have a 9-5 job, and the birds and fuzzy animals are my spare time. Each time i press that shutter it is because i love to do it.
I did think of taking this up professionally, and the things you mention, plus the thought that one day i may be pressing that shutter because i need to or i'm being payed to, made me stop.
I guess it will come to a time, again when its about the photographers skill and not what he uses which matters.
I have a 9-5 job in science, I don't need to press the shutter, the birds and animals are my spare time, each time I press the shutter it is because I love to.. I just try in my spare time to market them to help pay for my hobby. If I am successful it helps fund my kit so I get better pictures (technically) when new kit arrives: a circle, for my second half wouldn't let me spend the money otherwise. There are a good few people on this forum that fall into the category of Pro-Am.
In my mind I am a Pro-Am. A professional attitude (I hope) with the freedom of an Amature to chose what I do.
But this has digressed into a different topic so I will leave this topic here.
T
Posted by Larry Corbett on August 20, 2007 at 4:44 PM
....with Canon bringing out new cameras every 2 or 3 years at £3/4/5k a piece for what is fast becoming throw-away technology and if we want to be on the same level playing field (so that we can compete) with our full time professional collegues then we are going to have to sell alot of pictures to pay for our hobby or have very very understanding wives...and starving children
PS I know what you mean about trying to keep your website upto date Tom, the first thing I will teach my son after he learns to walk and talk is HTML code, so he can earn his pocket money
Discussion
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1Ds Mark III - http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_1dsmk3.html
40D - http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070820_40d.html
How much is the MKIII going to cost
The current $-£ exchange price at Canons $7999 guide is approx £4020. So Park Cameras suggested figure of approx £5974 is approx $11,881 some $3800 more than the USA, but to be fair thay do say it is TBC so lets hope that when it is confirmed it has dropped significantly otherwise welcome to Rip off Britain.
T
I hope the updated 5D is not too far away, with a full frame version of the sensor in the 1Dmk3, plus the features of the 40D.
Whilst the new camera bodies look great I am disappointed with the new lenses. What is the new 14 L all about??
Where is the 24-70 with IS, updated 70-200 F2.8 (with latest IS), and updated 100-400 L?
I think Nikon also have some announcements shortly so looking forward to see what they announce, maybe they finally get a full frame camera?
cheers
Sean
If that is going to be the street price then the answer is simple.... snub Canon Europe and the british sellers and give the chancellor's trade deficit a drubbing...import the gear. It isn't difficult these days.
I also think the market of 1Ds2 owners will not be that eager for a instantious move to this camera for the 1Ds2 its still 16.7MP and has virtually no noise (well none that Neat Image cannot eliminate) up 640 ASA. The 'live view' and an extra 1 fps would be nice but hardy a reason to splash 'even more' cash early.
No doubt I will move to a 1D3 or a 1Ds3 ... but, owning a 1Ds2, I ain't in a hurry and I definately want to see a report on its focus capabilities first
Its better being 'Leading Edge' not 'Bleeding Edge'
T
Hope your reply isn't judged to be political by the moderators or else this thread will get locked or even deleted
Barrie
Warehouse Express has prices of
40D £799
1DsM3 £4999
All the best
Phil
Oops they just changed it to 899 and 5999
But I hope it kicks Nikon up the backside to address their crappy iso noise performance
Nice camera... i'm still happy with the D200 though.
Now when they combine the IDMk3 speed with at least the resolution of the IDSMk2 then that's the time to really consider things
Mark
That said it may still be a 1D3 (depends on agency reaction) hence why no rush on my behalf.
T
Sorry.
T
Pre digital, it didnt matter if you shot an EOS 1V or an EOS 1, the difference now though seems to be "personal image" over "personal ability". It marks the difference i guess between many of us on here i guess.
I shoot for my passion of wildlife, i have no agencies to please only my own desires, i have a 9-5 job, and the birds and fuzzy animals are my spare time. Each time i press that shutter it is because i love to do it.
I did think of taking this up professionally, and the things you mention, plus the thought that one day i may be pressing that shutter because i need to or i'm being payed to, made me stop.
I guess it will come to a time, again when its about the photographers skill and not what he uses which matters.
How long will that be?
I have a 9-5 job in science, I don't need to press the shutter, the birds and animals are my spare time, each time I press the shutter it is because I love to.. I just try in my spare time to market them to help pay for my hobby. If I am successful it helps fund my kit so I get better pictures (technically) when new kit arrives: a circle, for my second half wouldn't let me spend the money otherwise. There are a good few people on this forum that fall into the category of Pro-Am.
In my mind I am a Pro-Am. A professional attitude (I hope) with the freedom of an Amature to chose what I do.
But this has digressed into a different topic so I will leave this topic here.
T
....with Canon bringing out new cameras every 2 or 3 years at £3/4/5k a piece for what is fast becoming throw-away technology and if we want to be on the same level playing field (so that we can compete) with our full time professional collegues then we are going to have to sell alot of pictures to pay for our hobby or have very very understanding wives...and starving children
PS I know what you mean about trying to keep your website upto date Tom, the first thing I will teach my son after he learns to walk and talk is HTML code, so he can earn his pocket money