Posted by Paul King on September 2, 2007 at 10:43 PM
Hi all,
In the continued striving to get the white balance correct and reduce the noise this Egret is presented for your comments and critisim.
Same techs as the previous Egret post
cheers
Paul
Posted by Daniel Read on September 3, 2007 at 4:27 AM
Hi Paul,
there is a lot less visible noise in this one, but it seems to lack contrast on my monitor (which isn't calibrated, so it could just be me), making the picture seen very washed out. Other than that, it's still a nicely caught pose!
Cheers,
Dan.
Posted by Chas Spradbery on September 3, 2007 at 4:31 AM
It is a nice pose, but there appears to be a visble shadow around the birds head - an oversharpening halo perhaps?
I think the pose is superb but IMHO there are three things that would make this even better.
1) The crop is too tight and the bird would really benefit from some extra space, particularly in front.
2) The image would benefit from a contrast increase as it appears a little too 'grey.'
3) This could be completely out of your control, but ideally a lower shooting angle would have been preferable.
Hope this helps
Posted by Alan Woolnough on September 3, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Wonderful pose Paul [ ballet style!!},
Less noise, but very pale, and lacking oomph
Did wonder if this lack of contrast/ noise issue was purely a camera setting problem, but having looked at one of your previous bittern shots {taken with a D70}, there appears to be a slight similarity in this regard {although not as severe with the D70 shots}.
I'm now wondering if this is mainly a 'Rawshooter' processing problem, and whether this is the culprit. I don't use rawshooter, so i don't know how extensive the various functions are, but maybe returning them to default and re-setting them as required may help.
I don't see how this could be entirely a camera related issue, although there are a zillion settings, so maybe doing the same, would put your mind at ease, regarding the camera.
Probably a million to one shot, but 'if' your lens has a rear filter, it may be worth checking the cleanliness of that, just to make sure it is not fogged over. I suppose another similar thing would be a smeared AA filter within the camera {through dodgy cleaning}.
Hopefully this is simply a rawshooter setting problem, but well worth getting to the bottom of, as you have some cracking shots that deserve to be shown in all their glory!
Just had a brainwave
To rule out a camera related problem, you could photograph an 'average' subject, with a good range of tones etc, and if your histogram gives a well balanced distribution across/vertically etc, you can be more certain this is processing related!
Alan
Posted by Paul King on September 3, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Thanks guys for your input,, it is much appreciated.
Alan it may well be a problem in the d2x and rawshooter package but as many used this in the past and may well still do, I doubt it. I checked the output from Captyre 1 and they look the same to me! go figure.
So I started with the easy bit and cleaned the sensor and checked the drop in filter so two down and goodness what to go.
Mind you the monitor looks good to me but goodness knows if it really is correct spose must buy a colurmetric thingy.
Paul
Posted by Paul King on September 3, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Thanks guys for your input,, it is much appreciated.
Alan it may well be a problem in the d2x and rawshooter package but as many used this in the past and may well still do, I doubt it. I checked the output from Captyre 1 and they look the same to me! go figure.
So I started with the easy bit and cleaned the sensor and checked the drop in filter so two down and goodness what to go.
Mind you the monitor looks good to me but goodness knows if it really is correct spose must buy a colurmetric thingy.
Discussion
6 repliesIn the continued striving to get the white balance correct and reduce the noise this Egret is presented for your comments and critisim.
Same techs as the previous Egret post
cheers
Paul
there is a lot less visible noise in this one, but it seems to lack contrast on my monitor (which isn't calibrated, so it could just be me), making the picture seen very washed out. Other than that, it's still a nicely caught pose!
Cheers,
Dan.
1) The crop is too tight and the bird would really benefit from some extra space, particularly in front.
2) The image would benefit from a contrast increase as it appears a little too 'grey.'
3) This could be completely out of your control, but ideally a lower shooting angle would have been preferable.
Hope this helps
Less noise, but very pale, and lacking oomph
Did wonder if this lack of contrast/ noise issue was purely a camera setting problem, but having looked at one of your previous bittern shots {taken with a D70}, there appears to be a slight similarity in this regard {although not as severe with the D70 shots}.
I'm now wondering if this is mainly a 'Rawshooter' processing problem, and whether this is the culprit. I don't use rawshooter, so i don't know how extensive the various functions are, but maybe returning them to default and re-setting them as required may help.
I don't see how this could be entirely a camera related issue, although there are a zillion settings, so maybe doing the same, would put your mind at ease, regarding the camera.
Probably a million to one shot, but 'if' your lens has a rear filter, it may be worth checking the cleanliness of that, just to make sure it is not fogged over. I suppose another similar thing would be a smeared AA filter within the camera {through dodgy cleaning}.
Hopefully this is simply a rawshooter setting problem, but well worth getting to the bottom of, as you have some cracking shots that deserve to be shown in all their glory!
Just had a brainwave
To rule out a camera related problem, you could photograph an 'average' subject, with a good range of tones etc, and if your histogram gives a well balanced distribution across/vertically etc, you can be more certain this is processing related!
Alan
Alan it may well be a problem in the d2x and rawshooter package but as many used this in the past and may well still do, I doubt it. I checked the output from Captyre 1 and they look the same to me! go figure.
So I started with the easy bit and cleaned the sensor and checked the drop in filter so two down and goodness what to go.
Mind you the monitor looks good to me but goodness knows if it really is correct spose must buy a colurmetric thingy.
Paul
Alan it may well be a problem in the d2x and rawshooter package but as many used this in the past and may well still do, I doubt it. I checked the output from Captyre 1 and they look the same to me! go figure.
So I started with the easy bit and cleaned the sensor and checked the drop in filter so two down and goodness what to go.
Mind you the monitor looks good to me but goodness knows if it really is correct spose must buy a colurmetric thingy.
Paul