Posted by David Clapp on October 10, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Here's another shot from the Dales that I took in the summer. Let me know what you think and I tell you if its the same as me...
EOS 5D, 24-105 f4L, ISO 100 for 6secs / 2secs, f16. A blend of two exsposures to lift shadow detail and another to control the water brightness
Posted by Rob Howard on October 10, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Hi David,
Ok I'll tell you what I think, I think it's stunning. I like this image as is, but another possibility would be to lift up and cut some foreground out and include above the waterfall, what looks like a rock face and some nice looking Oak branches.
HTH
Regards
Rob
Posted by David Clapp on October 10, 2007 at 6:25 PM
Cheers Rob thats a good idea. There isnt much above the fall by the way except bright patches, so I went for foreground more than anything.
Posted by Graeme Lee on October 10, 2007 at 6:31 PM
Looks pretty good to me again David. You're good at this Dunno what you're thinking but maybe a bit chopped off the bottom and a bit more up showing up top? I'd be happy with it, but then you've seen my efforts so far, so that'll be no surprise to you
Nice work
Posted by Rob Ashton on October 11, 2007 at 4:17 AM
Close foreground interest is essential in these shots so the composition is spot on for me. The angle of the falls is good too as i isn't parallel with the top or bottom of the frame. Keeping the light patches out of frame is also important with these type of shots and you've used "vertical thirds" for pleasing results. You've retained enough interest in the mid section with the reflected white foam in the still waters. I like this a lot.
To me, whilst technically very good, it looks imbalanced. My eye settles on the mid-shot water lead there by the l/r cleft between the two rocks and held their by the white barrier of the falls. The white water trace by your signature is an anomity which appears out of place in tonality. If you crop just above your signature it would help balance the scene better, making the falls more focal and removing the bottom white.
Technically superb as always, the two foreground rocks are nicely positioned. Composition wise I dont think it's you're strongest but still good! I think it may work better if the waterfall was coming straight at you rather than off to the left. Impossible to do though I know. Will be interest to hear your thoughts on this image.
Tristan
Posted by David Clapp on October 11, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Well I thought I wouold post it to see what reaction I got, so thanks for all the replies so far. Like Tom I find it unbalanced. The waterfall is at a strange angle as Tristan points out but cant be helped. TomW also mentions the bright patch at the bottom, which is a reflection of the waterfall, which I hadn't considered to bothersome until he mentioned it (!) but also agree with. By cropping this I have pulled the fall into a more central position. The thing I dont like about the fall is incline and lump in the centre, but now I think it is far more pleasing thanks to some helpful critique..
Thanks for the critiques, thats really helpful, nice to see we think alike!
Heres a repost
Posted by Chris Lloyd on October 11, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Hi Dave,
I think the repost is better IMO. I liked the first but prefer the second mainly because the white bit at the bottom has gone. I guess that because it is mainly dark in the bottom half of the image, it leads nicely into the waterfall. Lovely images.
I like it very much.
My first reaction was that I like the area of bright water at the bottom of the frame as it kind of ensured the image held my attention for longer by allowing my eye to switch between that and the distant water in the waterfall. However before seeing your repost I scrolled the screen slightly to eliminate the bottom edge of the rock, this to me worked instantly and gave all the emphasis to the main waterfall.
So with that in mind, the re-post is my favourite of the two.
A very strong and technically excellent image.
Wearing my 'Joe Public' hat for a moment, i like this a lot.
Unfortunately i don't own a landscapers hat, but i still like this a lot.
However, wearing my 'enthusiast photographers' hat, i can see the valid points that have been made, and how the slight variations 'may' make a positive difference.
Discussion
10 repliesEOS 5D, 24-105 f4L, ISO 100 for 6secs / 2secs, f16. A blend of two exsposures to lift shadow detail and another to control the water brightness
Ok I'll tell you what I think, I think it's stunning. I like this image as is, but another possibility would be to lift up and cut some foreground out and include above the waterfall, what looks like a rock face and some nice looking Oak branches.
HTH
Regards
Rob
Nice work
Rob
To me, whilst technically very good, it looks imbalanced. My eye settles on the mid-shot water lead there by the l/r cleft between the two rocks and held their by the white barrier of the falls. The white water trace by your signature is an anomity which appears out of place in tonality. If you crop just above your signature it would help balance the scene better, making the falls more focal and removing the bottom white.
T
Tristan
Thanks for the critiques, thats really helpful, nice to see we think alike!
Heres a repost
I think the repost is better IMO. I liked the first but prefer the second mainly because the white bit at the bottom has gone. I guess that because it is mainly dark in the bottom half of the image, it leads nicely into the waterfall. Lovely images.
Chris.
My first reaction was that I like the area of bright water at the bottom of the frame as it kind of ensured the image held my attention for longer by allowing my eye to switch between that and the distant water in the waterfall. However before seeing your repost I scrolled the screen slightly to eliminate the bottom edge of the rock, this to me worked instantly and gave all the emphasis to the main waterfall.
So with that in mind, the re-post is my favourite of the two.
A very strong and technically excellent image.
Unfortunately i don't own a landscapers hat, but i still like this a lot.
However, wearing my 'enthusiast photographers' hat, i can see the valid points that have been made, and how the slight variations 'may' make a positive difference.
Tricky stuff, this landscape malarky!!
Alan