Posted by Darren White on November 26, 2007 at 11:57 PM
This was a total crap shoot. 11am it was totally gray overcast and I almost did not head out for sunset....I met up with Larry as we scrambled in separate directions around Hood to get what was going to be a great sunset....
I decided since the sun was going down in the west and the clouds were banked in on Hood that maybe some strange color would show itself and that's what happened..
I did use a polarizer here to help deepen the colors of the clouds and sky. The clouds on the peak of Hood did not lift until well after sunset.....
Thoughts, comments, critiques and suggestions are always welcome!
Posted by Rick Lundh on November 27, 2007 at 12:26 AM
Darren,
The sky is very grainy, I want to see all of the mountain, the trees are too dark, there's nothing interesting in the foreground. I'd say toss this and never look back...but that's just me
Well, I wouldn't say it's a total loss. Ya got out there, right??? Anyways, I agree with Rick on most points, but it is something that could be worked on (except the mountain in the clouds). But, ultimately, for me anyways, the water leading the eye upward isn't prominent enough in the picture. Others may disagree, and your shooting style is different than mine, so someone out there may still like the colors enough to buy it if you keep working it in CS3...
Kevin
Posted by Mark Hudon on November 27, 2007 at 11:33 AM
Rick's passing out the tough love today, Darren. I'd have to agree with him though.
Posted by Rick Lamb on November 27, 2007 at 1:49 PM
I too am going to pass out some tough love. I know exactly how frustrating it can be to bust butt to get a great capture and come home with something less that stellar. We all try to pull the most from the least at times and I think this is that kind of image. So was it a total crap shoot? Ya me thinks so...
What I admire is the simple fact that you were out there AND posted your results here for us!! Where was I? Sitting in bed sick....
Posted by Darren White on November 27, 2007 at 8:35 PM
Well Kids, I have to admit...this is one of those...."I am posting this because I already know what you are gonna say" pictures....
I knew that the dark trees, small bit of water, no peak on the mountain would all get shut down...
I think sometimes this has became more of a "who's better at photoshop" group than a photographers group....When I was standing on the bridge taking this picture. this is 99% exactly how I saw the image in my viewfinder....and away from my viewfinder. The foreground was very dark since the sun was way down behind the clouds, No matter how nice they may or may not look, I do not do HDR images. I just don't!
did I think this was a winner......Nope....as a photographer I know there are many elements missing here....
Well, I gotta get back out there...lots of stuff to shoot.....
Cheers
D
Posted by Erik Lundh on November 27, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Darren,
I have almost the exact comp of this local except it was shot in mid January with lots of snow on the trees, nice sky and no rocks showing. I didn't think it worked either. This is a tough place to photograph. If you want the mountain to be prominent, you have to exclude the trees and other stuff. If you include the surroundings, then the mountain doesn't stand out. I've shot this area a few times and have decided to give it up.
Posted by John Williams on November 28, 2007 at 12:14 AM
Looks to me like the color was awesome, just like you were looking for. Unfortunately, as has been noted, the supporting cast wasn't there in this shot. I saw your shot in ES&S with a great sky, was it taken at the same time?
I found your comment about Photoshop vs. photographers interesting. I'm suspicious that now that the digital age is out of the bottle, there's no putting it back in. There will always be those who are good with a camera and those who are good with Photoshop, but my suspicion is the great ones will be good with both.
Posted by John Lehmkuhl on November 30, 2007 at 12:12 AM
I know what you are sayin, but this is an example of a tough shot where color didn't make it better than it would have been without. The composition from the parking lot isn't enough... if you were down by the water it might have been better, but I would not have risked that unless the mountain was out. That really is the missing element in this shot. Mountain stuck in the clouds = no payola. But nice attempt... by the way, is Trillium now closed to autos ? Time to rent some X country skis me thinks.
Posted by Darren White on November 30, 2007 at 12:21 AM
yep, trillium has been closed for over a week now....but I think you can still get in the back way with 4wd!!!
Discussion
9 repliesI decided since the sun was going down in the west and the clouds were banked in on Hood that maybe some strange color would show itself and that's what happened..
I did use a polarizer here to help deepen the colors of the clouds and sky. The clouds on the peak of Hood did not lift until well after sunset.....
Thoughts, comments, critiques and suggestions are always welcome!
The sky is very grainy, I want to see all of the mountain, the trees are too dark, there's nothing interesting in the foreground. I'd say toss this and never look back...but that's just me
Well, I wouldn't say it's a total loss. Ya got out there, right??? Anyways, I agree with Rick on most points, but it is something that could be worked on (except the mountain in the clouds). But, ultimately, for me anyways, the water leading the eye upward isn't prominent enough in the picture. Others may disagree, and your shooting style is different than mine, so someone out there may still like the colors enough to buy it if you keep working it in CS3...
Kevin
What I admire is the simple fact that you were out there AND posted your results here for us!! Where was I? Sitting in bed sick....
I knew that the dark trees, small bit of water, no peak on the mountain would all get shut down...
I think sometimes this has became more of a "who's better at photoshop" group than a photographers group....When I was standing on the bridge taking this picture. this is 99% exactly how I saw the image in my viewfinder....and away from my viewfinder. The foreground was very dark since the sun was way down behind the clouds, No matter how nice they may or may not look, I do not do HDR images. I just don't!
did I think this was a winner......Nope....as a photographer I know there are many elements missing here....
Well, I gotta get back out there...lots of stuff to shoot.....
Cheers
D
I have almost the exact comp of this local except it was shot in mid January with lots of snow on the trees, nice sky and no rocks showing. I didn't think it worked either. This is a tough place to photograph. If you want the mountain to be prominent, you have to exclude the trees and other stuff. If you include the surroundings, then the mountain doesn't stand out. I've shot this area a few times and have decided to give it up.
I found your comment about Photoshop vs. photographers interesting. I'm suspicious that now that the digital age is out of the bottle, there's no putting it back in. There will always be those who are good with a camera and those who are good with Photoshop, but my suspicion is the great ones will be good with both.