Nice and I really like the bg, as said it is a touch too warm and perhaps in need of a bit of TLC in the processing, I also find the bird a touch too central for my taste... has potential for a super shot though...
Posted by Andy Astbury on December 10, 2007 at 7:09 AM
The BG is a stunning colour Paul
All the nits already covered BUT - on my monitor, I can see a lot of Gaussian contours in the BG, especially from the kings head upwards.
Posted by Andy Shepherd on December 10, 2007 at 7:21 AM
Hi Paul,
Very nice image , a touch warm yes , a little central yes , but still a cracking shot
Agree with Andy A re the Gaussian , these HP monitors don't miss a trick
Regards
Andy...
Posted by Barry Southon on December 10, 2007 at 7:58 AM
Great shot I can never get them close enough.
Works for me
Barry
Eastbourne
UK
Posted by Paul King on December 10, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Thanks all for your comments, have dropped the contrast. Not able to see the gausian thingy on HP1530 caibrated xcreen. Probably my eyes!
Looks a bit washed out to me?
Posted by eric weight on December 10, 2007 at 1:06 PM
Nice perch Paul! I think the original is a fine picture and I would be very pleased with myself if I had taken it. Can somebody enlighten the less knowledgable among us on the subject of gaussian contours. They are not something I have ever heard of before, although I think I can see what Andy has seen. How do they get there?
Repost looks washed out to me as well Paul.
Paul composition in your repost is better for me (It is really a personal thing) but not sure what or why you have reduced contrast.... I have a feeling that you are not getting the best from your RAW conversion....
Please do repost the techs as we have to go to another post in an attempt to help.
A couple of questions to try and help.....
Was this taken early am or late afternoon?
Can you outline your conversion routine?
I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this...
All the best
Phil
Posted by Paul King on December 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Ok the original when uploaded looked a bit to bright, and I agreed with the warm bit.
shot was an early morning low strong light, in fact harsh.
Workflow is Rawshooter pro, moving to nikon capture 4.4, select images for CS2 work.
Do the minimal adjustments as possible bit of USM and then Neat image to tidy up.
then save to Jpeg format for uploading.
The techs: D2x, 600 f4, 1/800, f8, -.33ev, ISO 200. Meter mode pattern Ap priority.Coloour mode RGB2
Cheers, I think I might have identified at leats one weak point here... It could have been a great piece of software but white balance was really a huge weak point and that is Rawshooter (you really were left to guess as to what was correct)
I'm not a Nikon user but is not Capture a RAW converter too?
If it was my file then I would probably work entirely in CS2, Nikon users like Phillip Tompkinson and Tim Munsey will have more appropriate advice but I would remove Rawshooter from the mix...
HTH
Phil
Posted by Paula Graham on December 10, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Personally I like the original better although it is a bit 'warm', for me it has a lot of punch though.
Might it help if you were to just reduce the saturation a tad?, instead of the contrast?
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14 repliesTechs same as the wren's
Laurie
Ian
John
Aberdeen
Nice sharp shot and I like the colour of the BG
All the nits already covered BUT - on my monitor, I can see a lot of Gaussian contours in the BG, especially from the kings head upwards.
Very nice image , a touch warm yes , a little central yes , but still a cracking shot
Agree with Andy A re the Gaussian , these HP monitors don't miss a trick
Regards
Andy...
Works for me
Barry
Eastbourne
UK
Looks a bit washed out to me?
Repost looks washed out to me as well Paul.
Please do repost the techs as we have to go to another post in an attempt to help.
A couple of questions to try and help.....
Was this taken early am or late afternoon?
Can you outline your conversion routine?
I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this...
All the best
Phil
shot was an early morning low strong light, in fact harsh.
Workflow is Rawshooter pro, moving to nikon capture 4.4, select images for CS2 work.
Do the minimal adjustments as possible bit of USM and then Neat image to tidy up.
then save to Jpeg format for uploading.
The techs: D2x, 600 f4, 1/800, f8, -.33ev, ISO 200. Meter mode pattern Ap priority.Coloour mode RGB2
So there you go hope it helps.
Cheers, I think I might have identified at leats one weak point here... It could have been a great piece of software but white balance was really a huge weak point and that is Rawshooter (you really were left to guess as to what was correct)
I'm not a Nikon user but is not Capture a RAW converter too?
If it was my file then I would probably work entirely in CS2, Nikon users like Phillip Tompkinson and Tim Munsey will have more appropriate advice but I would remove Rawshooter from the mix...
HTH
Phil
Might it help if you were to just reduce the saturation a tad?, instead of the contrast?