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Male & Female Herons

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Posted by Barry Southon on December 19, 2007 at 6:00 PM
Male & Female Herons
Where and how do I start with this one?

Handheld Canon 350D sigma 50mm-500mm X2 ISO200 f13 1/100sec

Taken back in the spring in a local park I liked it.

Comments and Critique please

Thanks

Barry :wink:
Eastbourne
Posted by Mike Smith on December 19, 2007 at 6:49 PM
Barry what are you looking for in the feedback? - problems with the shot as it stands, or how to improve in the future? or both?
Posted by Mike Smith on December 19, 2007 at 7:00 PM
For starters, one problem is that you have cut-off both the herons feet. Given the amount of headroom, the subjects should have been higher in the frame to record/show the feet and perch branch they are stood on
Posted by Graeme Lee on December 19, 2007 at 7:40 PM
Apart from chopping the legs off Barry, it's really soft. You really need to be using a tripod with those techs. 1/100th and possibly 1000mm, even a tripod would struggle to keep that still!!!
Posted by Andy Astbury on December 20, 2007 at 3:27 AM
Hi Barry - your AF has focussed on the branch infront of the herons, it will always do this mate - manual focus has to be done to get it right.
That can lead to a problem if you have your AF activation on your shutter button, if you focus correctly and then press the button the AF will defocus - simplest way around the problem is to remove AF activation from the shutter button in your setup menu - and that is a TOP TIP Barry :jump:

If you go handheld there's a golden rule to follow: never use a shutter speed less than the reciprocal of your focal length, and you do need to take your camera crop-factor into account.

If your Bigma was at 500mm for this + your 2x tc that would be 1000mm which will equate to 1500mm+ on your 350D ( I forget your crop factor, is it 1.5,1.6 or 1.7) so your best minimum shutter speed would in truth be 1/2000th - use anything below and you are in tpod land.

Comp-wise Mike and G-man have covered your problems.

Hope this helps matey :wavey: :wavey:
Posted by Mike Smith on December 20, 2007 at 6:59 AM
I doubt that AF would work with the lens combo in use - it would be equivelent to F13 shot wide open as reported in the EXIF. AF runs out at F5.6 on a 350D body, so the shot was restricted to manual focus only. Considering how dark the viewfinder must have been, it is a pretty fair attempt at the shot, but really a tripod should have been used to tame the inevitable camera shake.

Posted by eric weight on December 20, 2007 at 10:37 AM
Aside from the techs that the others have commented on, I think you were maybe too optimistic in trying to get a shot with all those branches between you and the subject. A slight change of position may have helped. It was a nice subject though and I would go back this coming spring, there is a good chance that your opportunity might repeat itself if they are regulars. :wavey: :wavey:
Posted by Ian Andrews on December 20, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Hi Barry,
The comments above about the feet are valid, but ask yourself why you chopped the feet off? I'd say you are using the centre focussing point as a "rifle sight" as the real problem is that you have the heads dead centre and that is probably what you were concentrating on. Take a look around the whole frame before pressing the shutter release.

HIH

Ian