Posted by Merle Cook on February 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I thought I would list this printer here before going to the Classified Section. The printer is in excellent condition and has never been used for commercial or other heavy printing. I have only used it for my personal use. I am selling it because I have changed from PC to MAC and Epson does not support this printer for Leopard. I have all the documentation, software etc that came with it. I am asking $200 plus shipping. However, if someone wants it within a reasonable distance of Columbia, MO, I will deliver if you split the gas.
This is the printer that launched the current desktop archival fine art printing world and can still produce a mighty fine print, and was the printer I learned to print on - still a great first printer for someone (the original price was $700-$800). It is somewhat of a dino though now for someone of your skill Merle, so the new spotted cat is really doing you a favor! What new printer are you getting?
Posted by Merle Cook on February 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Well Tim, I now am the proud owner of an Epson Stylus Pro 3800. I am currently in the process of learning what it will do, as well as trying to do my change over from PC to MAC, and learn Lightroom and CS3. At times I think , Just give me back my PC and Elements 5. Then I sober up and realize that it is better to move on and learn, as opposed to staying where I was and learning nothing. I haven't posted anything for a while simply because "I don't know how and haven't had the time to learn". We have twin grandsons born two weeks ago in St Louis (125 miles away) and have been spending a ton of time over there. No time for play...
However, I have committed to shooting with Dena at Burr Oaks next Saturday and then attending the get together at the end of April at Boxley. Of course that doesn't help me learn the programs, but it does get me out to try and learn the craft.
Posted by Bill Dark on February 3, 2008 at 8:03 AM
Merle - while I'm sure you will produce some great looking prints with the new Epson, I continue to be amazed at how Epson has been content to watch their share of the printer market dwindle away. One of the main reasons has been their inability to engineer a printer that will switch black inks without so much waste (time and ink).
I wish you had posted something here back in November letting us know you were in the market for a printer. ColorHQ.com was closing out their stock on Canon ipf5000's for $899 and free shipping. I may be a little partial to Canon printers having bought one from Tim, but it was arguably the best 17" printer on the market. One of the best websites for information and product reviews is Luminous Landscape, which would have been a great source to check out before purchasing a printer. I hope I'm not coming off too harsh here, but thought you would want to know...
Posted by Merle Cook on February 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM
Bill, Actually, I posted a request for info on printers 11-29-07 in the Digital Imaging Forum and of the three responses, the Canon seemed to be the one. I also received a couple of e-mails from members recommending the 3800. Believe me, at the price difference I would have been more than happy to look at the Canon.
Please don't be concerned about coming off too harsh. I appreciate any and all the input I can get.
Just FYI, I now have five different fine art printers for workshop students to use at my printing classes here at the Cloudland Buffalo River Gallery (the first one is Feb. 16th and we still have a couple spots open if anyone is interested), including Canon, HP, and Epson printers (3800, 2400, 9180, z3100, 9500). The 3800 is so light and easy to carry around that it will be our standard printer for my weekend workshops of mine at Buffalo Lodge (Bill's Canon and the Epson 4880 are better-built printers, but weight a ton!).
All three companies have terrific pigment printers now capable of producing archival fine art prints on just about any type of paper you can throw at them - with more to come soon (Epson will be rolling out their new models later this year, and I will have to buy yet another printer I'm sure when they do!). I was an early adopter of the Canon ipf printers like the one Bill has and they are great, also bought into the new HP z series of printers and they are terrific too. And I've had almost every model of Epsons beginning with the 2200, although decided to skip the **80 models due to the looming upgrade coming. It is so great to have such a wide choice these days! (not to mention that by the end of this year we will have not one but THREE fullframe 35mm cameras in the 22-24mp range, oh my goodness!)
Posted by Bill Dark on February 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Tim - is there a possibility that one of those 22-24 mp cameras will be a D3x?
Posted by TIMERNST on February 3, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Of course. Canon, Nikon, Sony. The new Sony was just announced, well sort of anyway. And the D3x will use the same Sony sensor (Sony and Nikon make the sensor). Both the Nikon and Sony will have some Zeiss glass to go along with them (both already have some lenses and more will be available in the not-too-distant future - I've been using one of the Zeiss lenses on my Sony now for six months and it is a great lens). In a single year Canon is finally going to get a lot of competition! It is kind of like the printer wars were last year - Epson was the only game in town for so long and then all of a sudden HP and Canon caught up with and passed them. As always, it will be interesting to see what happens...
Posted by Rob Graham on February 3, 2008 at 11:12 PM
A question about printers. Kodak just released the new printer/scanner which uses a new kind of ink. I know it won't match the quality of the printers mentioned above, but any word on how good it is? Thanks, Rob.
Posted by TIMERNST on February 3, 2008 at 11:57 PM
<< I know it won't match the quality of the printers mentioned above>>
These kinds of printers are great for what they are designed to do, prints and snapshots...
Posted by Wayne Rhodus on February 4, 2008 at 12:25 PM
That's why I can't seem to sell any prints ... I'm printing on a dinosaur! Yeah, that's it!
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However, I have committed to shooting with Dena at Burr Oaks next Saturday and then attending the get together at the end of April at Boxley. Of course that doesn't help me learn the programs, but it does get me out to try and learn the craft.
I wish you had posted something here back in November letting us know you were in the market for a printer. ColorHQ.com was closing out their stock on Canon ipf5000's for $899 and free shipping. I may be a little partial to Canon printers having bought one from Tim, but it was arguably the best 17" printer on the market. One of the best websites for information and product reviews is Luminous Landscape, which would have been a great source to check out before purchasing a printer. I hope I'm not coming off too harsh here, but thought you would want to know...
Please don't be concerned about coming off too harsh. I appreciate any and all the input I can get.
Merle
All three companies have terrific pigment printers now capable of producing archival fine art prints on just about any type of paper you can throw at them - with more to come soon (Epson will be rolling out their new models later this year, and I will have to buy yet another printer I'm sure when they do!). I was an early adopter of the Canon ipf printers like the one Bill has and they are great, also bought into the new HP z series of printers and they are terrific too. And I've had almost every model of Epsons beginning with the 2200, although decided to skip the **80 models due to the looming upgrade coming. It is so great to have such a wide choice these days! (not to mention that by the end of this year we will have not one but THREE fullframe 35mm cameras in the 22-24mp range, oh my goodness!)
These kinds of printers are great for what they are designed to do, prints and snapshots...