Posted by Derek Sedillo on February 25, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I have been looking into the possibilty of shooting Lost Lake with the moon. Because of its location in relation to the peak it looks like sunrise wouldn't work. I finally found a shot with the moon and Hood here from Lost Lake: http://oregonwildflowers.org/viewlocationphoto.php?ID=137
Has anyone else attempted to shoot Hood from Lost Lake with the moon in it?
Thanks,
- Derek
Posted by Erik Lundh on February 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Derek,
I've never seen the moon from Lost Lake in the twilight hours. with this particular shot, I think it would be better without the moon. It's washed out and too close to the top. A nice post card type image other wise.
Posted by Derek Sedillo on February 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Yes, I agree about the image above. It just showed me that this comp is possible at Lost lake. Hopefully I or someone else could manage the exposure a bit better.
The moon can be tricky to get right at sunrise or sunset that is for sure. The longer the exposure the worse it looks generally speaking. Here is one from the Sangre de Cristo Mtns I took yesterday. I had to work on the moon's exposure separately and then blend it back in. Otherwise it blew out in a similar fashion: http://www.landandseaphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4001131_DtJhj#258530351_KTKiH-A-LB
Posted by Tom Kloster on February 27, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Hi Derek - I was with Greg Lief when he took that shot! Here's a similar shot that I took that same evening that shows a bit more of the scene. This was taken in early August, as I recall. We went up there for a full moon shot (e.g., moonlit mountain) last year, and it was a fiasco! When the moon finally rose over the eastern skyline, it lit up the lake like a Roman candle. All of my timed exposure came out like eery daylight scenes. Weird!
I'm attaching another view from the same side of the mountain, but near timberline: this was taken in early October at about 5 PM. In subsequent shots over about 30 minutes, the moon passed just above the summit and to a point west of the summit, so it's critical to be in the exact spot at the right time. Unfortunately, I have no idea when that is! These were both opportunistic shots. I'm clueless when it comes to moon geometry, but mostly wanted to confirm that you can definitely capture the moon in the view from Lost Lake.
Tom
Posted by Derek Sedillo on February 27, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Tom,
Your attached shot is sweet!!! That is definitely what I would like to try. It looks like October was a good month for this sort of thing. You could probably underexpose that image if you shot in raw. Then blend the moon back in to the original for more detail.
Moon angle can sometimes be critical for this sort of thing. Some of the guys on our RMNP forum pull out their old trig books to calculate angle of the moon in relation to the altitude of the peak and place from which the photo is taken. I usually just check on the angle or path the moon is following for any given month as it does change throughout the year.
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4 replieshttp://oregonwildflowers.org/viewlocationphoto.php?ID=137
Has anyone else attempted to shoot Hood from Lost Lake with the moon in it?
Thanks,
- Derek
I've never seen the moon from Lost Lake in the twilight hours. with this particular shot, I think it would be better without the moon. It's washed out and too close to the top. A nice post card type image other wise.
The moon can be tricky to get right at sunrise or sunset that is for sure. The longer the exposure the worse it looks generally speaking. Here is one from the Sangre de Cristo Mtns I took yesterday. I had to work on the moon's exposure separately and then blend it back in. Otherwise it blew out in a similar fashion:
http://www.landandseaphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4001131_DtJhj#258530351_KTKiH-A-LB
I'm attaching another view from the same side of the mountain, but near timberline: this was taken in early October at about 5 PM. In subsequent shots over about 30 minutes, the moon passed just above the summit and to a point west of the summit, so it's critical to be in the exact spot at the right time. Unfortunately, I have no idea when that is! These were both opportunistic shots. I'm clueless when it comes to moon geometry, but mostly wanted to confirm that you can definitely capture the moon in the view from Lost Lake.
Tom
Your attached shot is sweet!!! That is definitely what I would like to try. It looks like October was a good month for this sort of thing. You could probably underexpose that image if you shot in raw. Then blend the moon back in to the original for more detail.
Moon angle can sometimes be critical for this sort of thing. Some of the guys on our RMNP forum pull out their old trig books to calculate angle of the moon in relation to the altitude of the peak and place from which the photo is taken. I usually just check on the angle or path the moon is following for any given month as it does change throughout the year.
You can take a look at the Altitude/Azimuth lookup table on the USNO sight here:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php
And then for the basic cycle including time of sunset/sunrise & moonset/moonrise I use this a lot:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.php
And topozone will show the angle of the lake to the mountain:
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=45.396&lon=-121.70365&datum=nad27&u=4&layer=DRG&size=l&s=500