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'Lift off'

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Posted by David Kjaer on February 28, 2008 at 3:41 PM
'Lift off'
Still feeding my Brambling flock and I have been trying to get wide angle images of the flock feeding. I have however been disappointed with the results as the birds blend with the background too well (which nature intended) and it doesn't make for a good image. I have tried in both full sun and overcast but it is not working as well as I had hoped as I feel I need them to stand out a littl more from the BG.

1D MkIII + 24-70 f2.8 iso 800 f10 at 1/1000 fired remotely from the comfort of my car

Have included another image below to illustrate the problem!
Posted by David Kjaer on February 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Taken today in overcast conditions!

David
Posted by Justin on February 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Hi David,
Looks like your time and effort with the Bramblings is paying off.
Looks like the sunshine in the top image appears to really help with the seperation of birds and backdrop, thanks to the that wonderfully illuminated and colourful chest the birds have.
Love the viewpoint and the slight pano crop.

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Posted by Helge Sorensen on February 28, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Hi Dave, I agree with Justin that the first image is the better of the two. Actually it's a very very nice image, and I think you have a fine separation from the BG! Interesting apporach with the wide-angle :toast: :toast:
Posted by Craig Churchill on February 28, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Hi David


I love the soft colours of the second image but struggling with the speed to freeze the action!
Even with the birds static I prefer the second image,good luck keep at it whilst the birds are still around.


Craig
www.craigchurchill.co.uk
Posted by Matt Cole on February 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM
the brambling flock is a lovely sight in both images. The wideangle approach is effective. Of the 2 I prefer the top one.

Matt
Posted by Major Gilbert on February 28, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Yes David what a difference a day makes (24 little hours) feel a song coming on there.
The posabilities are endless and you have captured one here. :toast:
Great thing just to witness that amount of Bramblings.

Major.
Posted by Paul King on February 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM

it's amazing how they can blend in with such bright orange!! I would prefer the firtst image. :wavey:
Posted by jack chapman on February 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM
brilliant, i love the first shot, looks surreal and very different, i couldn't even work it out at first
Posted by Paul Thomas on February 28, 2008 at 8:16 PM
I think the 1st one is great. For me it has an instant visual impact plus if you look a bit closer some birds going up but a few aren't which adds extra interest. The 2nd one seems to be a group of disconnected individuals. It doesn't have .the focus which the mass take-off gives the 1st picture.

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Paul
Posted by Tim Munsey on February 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM
Always refreshing to see a differant kind of shot. Good one

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Tim
Posted by Elliott Neep on February 29, 2008 at 5:18 AM
Hi David. I think you need sunlight for the contrast and shutter speed. Have you tried have the camera on a beanbag on the ground so it is looking skyward. You would have less background to distract... An off-camera remote flash could be used to pick up the under-wings. Love the idea - had huge potential! :toast: :toast:
Posted by Mark Sisson on February 29, 2008 at 5:39 AM
Hi David,

Definitely better for the sunlight to bring out the orange colours, and I like the idea too.

Any chance of getting a different angle to get a blue sky from ground level (from the left say?).

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Mark
Posted by John Chapman on February 29, 2008 at 6:19 AM
Hi David great capture and full marks for trying. :toast:
John
Aberdeen :toast:
Posted by Paul Inglis on February 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM
Hi David,

Superb project you have going here! I like both images but the first is more interesting so to speak! Good luck with achieving your goal!
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Posted by Danny Green on February 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Hello Dave

Loved all the shots you have posted on brambling and I really like these two as well they both work.

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Danny
Posted by Paul Gibbs on March 1, 2008 at 4:28 AM
Very different, i love the contrast of the birds colours with the BG. The second shot i admit looses the impace, but its still a useful shot of what you would see with them feeding on the ground.
Posted by eric weight on March 1, 2008 at 10:12 AM
I like the first one best. I have never seen a brambling and always wonder if I am missing them among flocks of chaffys, but that first image tells me what to look for in the field. That orange is more distinctive than I expected.
:toast: :toast: Eric