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B+W Dipper Scene

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Posted by jack chapman on May 18, 2008 at 1:48 PM
B+W Dipper Scene
from my trip to derbyshire earlier this year, this isn't from either of the busy sights

350D + 300mm F4L + 1.4 extender
1/30 @ F25
ISO 400
Full frame
Posted by Robert Lawrence on May 18, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Hello Jack,
an interesting shot indeed and I cannot make up my mind if it works for me or not. I think the inclusion of the pipe is too distracting but if I crop it out altogether the balance doesn't look right so I can see where you are coming from there. However, the crop that pleases my eye most is if you crop the top of the pipe to just below the right hand highlight. That gives an anchor point for the icicles (which are great and I can imagine what it would be like with an old stone bridge or similar) but gets rid of that ugly bracket on the top side of pipe.
Still, an unusual image and very different from the norm.
Posted by Justin on May 18, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Doesn't quite work for me Jack if I'm honest, mainly because of the ugly pipe and the bird appears a little too dark.
Although saying that, it depends what you're after.
I guess, whilst birds in attractive settings are something we often strive for, there's also a very valid space in one's portfolio for creatures in a wide variety of habitats, including ones with man-made elements, as seen here.
Posted by Tim Taylor on May 18, 2008 at 3:51 PM
For some reason seeing the dipper in this hostile environment started me thinking of that Monty Python Sketch - 'I 'ad ter live in paper bag in middle of road' etc. The black and white scheme, the steel pipe, threatening icicles and freezing torrent lend a distinct sense of isolation and misery to the environment. Still the brave dipper struggles on (and is probably happy with his lot)... :wink:

Good thought provoking image.

Tim :toast:
Posted by Sandra Hendrikse on May 19, 2008 at 2:23 AM
Interesting picture which -after looking at it for a while- works for me. However the pipe is nevertheless too distracting in my eyes and I think you should try cropping it as Robert describes.
Posted by Paul Inglis on May 19, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Hi Jack,

I like this! I think it works well as a Man and Nature image! It shows how birds don't just live in total wildness!
:toast: :toast: :toast:
Posted by Alan Woolnough on May 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Ive always liked B&W bird/nature images Jack, although i feel it works better in certain situations, than others.

This doesn't quite work for me, as there is too much {too many competing elements} going on in the frame. As a general rule with B&W.............less is often more {at least for me}, and maybe a narrow pano crop of the bottom half would 'simplify' the image.

Although that may risk losing what you were intending to convey, it may make it more suited to the B&W treatment :confused:

Only my opinion though :smile:

:toast:

Alan
Posted by Barry Southon on May 19, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Jack

I like it, but I'm a what you see is what you get sort of person. I agree with Paul shows how nature survives and adapts.

Barry :wink:

Eastbourne / Kansas
Posted by eric weight on May 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Lots to like in this shot Jack, but I just keep wondering if that pipe might look better in colour if it is rusty or covered in algae. Definitley a perfectly good 'surviving in a man-made envioronment' type of shot.
:toast: :toast: Eric
Posted by Robert Lawrence on May 19, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Having taken another look Jack I think I agree with Eric regarding the B&W aspect. Would you be able to post a colour version for comparison?

Robert