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Pine marten

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Posted by Peter Cairns on May 23, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Pine marten
One from last summer that's just found its way to the top of the processing file!

I've been reprimanded for not posting camera details. I have to say, I'm not sure it makes any difference to whether the shot appeals or not but anyway, if you're interested...

Canon 1dMII, 500mm. f4/1/250sec.ISO400

Peter Cairns
www.northshots.com
Posted by Andy Bate on May 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Nice shot, like it and i think its always good to see what techs people use, ive learnt from them!!!
Posted by A.R.D on May 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I like this very much. I like the purple haze in the foreground, the alert posture and sharpness.


Strangely, although called Nature Photographers.Net there appears to be (in my opinion) more enphasis on the tech's than the nature. I'm always interested in the shots that only give the shooting data and no background the shot etc. Where's the passion for the natural bit?

Regards
Posted by Craig Churchill on May 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Cracking Pete.
Love the heather behind!!!

Craig
www.craigchurchill.co.uk
Posted by Peter Cairns on May 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM
I'm absolutely with you on this ARD. I understand Andy's point but I often wonder how many joiners get asked what chisel they use! The camera is just a tool and we seem really hung up on gear in Britain. This shot was possible because I know a bit about pine martens rather than the fact I have a fancy camera. Sorry to rant but I just don't get this pre-occupation with f stops and ISO settings.
Posted by Paul Inglis on May 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Hi Peter,

Very nice! I've not seen one of these in quite a few years now! We're very low on mammals over here! Beautiful pose you've caught there! Great exposure and nice choice of depth of field too!
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Posted by eric weight on May 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I know where you are coming from. Just ask a question about lenses and see how many more replies it generates. That said I like to see it all, techs and background info about getting the shot. Of the two, the latter is the most beneficial though.
To be fair, and speaking as someone who is just starting out with a macro lens, I find the aperture info useful for seeing what effect it has with which lens. I guess we are all looking for something different.
I really like this shot btw, the mauve flowers really give it a lift.
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Posted by Mark Sisson on May 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Hi Pete - we try to create (and hopefully sell) images that appeal or invoke some kind of response in my opinion - the camera is indeed the tool that creates the opportunity that the photographer/naturalist saw. That said you need to know what you're doing!!

Love these animals and have seen others of yours from this stunning setting and sequence.

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Mark
Posted by Colin Pickett on May 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Hi Peter
Just got back from a trip to Skye would have loved to have seen one of these. I really like the image, the alert pose and the purple for the fore and back round. I don't really care much for the techs there only useful if there something out of the ordinary but I do generally include them as some may find them useful.

Nice image :toast:
Posted by Dave Courtenay on May 23, 2008 at 2:30 PM
See plenty of these here-flat :frown: but have only ever had 2 cross my path whilst i was driving-i really wish i could have come to terms with them but alas i have left it too late-lovely image of a very endearing animal

Dave :toast:
Posted by Alan Woolnough on May 23, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Super shot Peter :toast: :toast:

Agree the camera is a tool..................although its become a pretty sophisticated tool, and i wish my chisel was half as clever :wink: :smile:

Alan
Posted by Dawn Monrose on May 23, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Wonderful shot, I love the pose, and background. These are probably my absolute favourite shots of yours (so far... :wink: ) Absolutely stunning. :toast:

I like to see some techs, doesn't have to be too in depth, but its interesting to see how the pros do it :wink: And things like the quality of the gear etc. It also helps if someone has some issues/nits with pictures, people who comment can suggest remedies - ie: stop down a bit, or whatever......

Anyhoo - great shot!! :biggrin: :toast: :toast:
Posted by Paul King on May 23, 2008 at 4:10 PM
A right cracker of a shot Peter, BG brill, A chisel is only as good as the carpenter!!! :toast: :toast:
Posted by Daniel Read on May 23, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Fantastic shot :toast:

I personally enjoy seeing the specs, as a beginner it helps to see what went into making a photo. Also, it's easy to say the camera is just a tool when you have some of the best tools in the business!

Cheers,

Dan.
Posted by Austin Thomas on May 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM
An excellent image. I like the essence of heather around the subject.

Austin
Posted by Magnus Hird on May 24, 2008 at 5:36 AM
Lovely pose, and after actually gettng a shot of one of these its the foreground rock and heathers that make it for me.

Agree, I'd like to see more about the "fieldcraft" and nature: sometimes getting the position or proximity to your subject and knowing where to find it and when, is a bigger problem than the technicalities of the shot. Having said that, as a beginner too, I do find the techs useful to help develop my own skills and understand how they help create images :smile:
Posted by Paul Gibbs on May 24, 2008 at 5:52 AM
Fantastic image Peter, nice alert pose and great colour and depth. Great shot of a shy species!
Posted by Rob Ashton on May 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Good one Peter. Is the Oof stuff Heather??

Rob :toast:
Posted by Elliott Neep on May 25, 2008 at 3:38 AM
Up until recently, the badger was my bogey animal. Now this is. I have been to the Highlands on a couple of occasions and only managed one mediocre flashed shot which I am far from happy with. I would love to have a shot like this in my files. It has everything: a great pose, colour, environment, etc. A fantastic pine marten shot and one of the best I have seen. If you could help me in anyway, I would be in your debt. :toast: :toast: :toast:
As for techs: It does help people to learn the craft when they can see a low f/number has created this shallow depth of field, or s slow shutter speed meant you were extra careful or used a tripod, or how close you were by using a 50mm or 500mm :smile: :wavey:
Posted by PhilH on May 25, 2008 at 5:02 AM
Very nice Peter, Agree with Elliott as to a good reason for posting techs, the other side is that if someone less experienced posts their techs one can advise that little bit better.

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Posted by Philip Kirkham on May 25, 2008 at 5:17 AM
Great capture of a very elusive mammal.
As for the techs debate, as can be seen from the comments above, quite a number of us do like to see them included and much can be learned from both seeing the images and also how they were taken. Surely, one of the aims of our site is to help one another? I must say that I have gleened a huge amount of information from the generous members of this site, and for that, I am extremely grateful for all the inputs.
Best wishes
Phil :toast:
Posted by Peter Cairns on May 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Philip, Phil, Elliott etc all make good points and I can see there is more justification in background information than I had perhaps realised.
For Elliott, this unusually tame young marten was kicking around my house for a few weeks last summer but I'm afraid has now disappeared. A workshop guest reported seeing it (or at least a marten) from my red squirrel hide just recently but I've not seen her for almost a year. Pine martens seem to be high up most photographer's lists and there are a number of places where you can photograph them but nowhere easily and in natural light. From time to time, they turn up denning in people's lofts or outhouses and this makes things a bit easier but very difficult to predict this. Sorry not much help.

Pete
Posted by Brett Lewis on May 25, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Lovely work. I really like Pine Martens and it's great to see one captured in such a wonderful pose. It's interesting to read the debate about the technical info regarding taking photos and I must say that I have learnt a lot from people posting such things with their images as I have learned to use them as a starting block only to explore and develop my own personal skill.

Thanks for the interesting posting..

Brett.
Posted by Danny Green on May 26, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Great shot would love a crack at these one day.


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Danny
Posted by Nicholas Armitt on June 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM
very nicely captured, really like the pose.

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