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Cropper's Dilemma ! + re post

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Posted by John Robinson on July 20, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Cropper's Dilemma ! + re post
No this is not the Coronation Street Cropper.
( I don't watch it of course. !! Of course I do ! )
This is one of those awkward ones.
The left bird looking into shot- fine
Right bird looking out of shot - not good. So what do you do ?
Ideas welcome.
Cheers
JR
Posted by Ben Micklem on July 21, 2008 at 3:07 AM
Photoshop, sorry, Paint Shop Pro his head on the other way around :biggrin:

Great shot as it is- especially the exposure on the blacks and whites. I've yet to get a good shot of any woodpeckers. Was the wood baited? What with?

I may be showing a huge ignorance of bird ID, but is the one on the right a lesser spotted? The head colour looks right, but it is quite big, and there is a bit of pink showing under the tail....
Posted by Steve Fletcher on July 21, 2008 at 3:34 AM
I would leave it as it is, it works for me as it stands. They are both definitely Greater Spotted.
Posted by Tom Smit on July 21, 2008 at 3:41 AM
@Ben
I think this is an adult (left) and a juvenile (right).

@John
I think I would crop from the left side because this is a little disturbing (the twigs) and may be a little on the right.
Posted by Nick on July 21, 2008 at 3:43 AM
I'd probaby leave it as-is John. You'd have been better with more space on the RHS - but if a designer needed more space there, they could extend the canvas there quite easily. Have you already had a go cloning something down the rhs as there looks to be a bit of a repeating pattern there already?

I like BTW :smile:
Posted by Brett Lewis on July 21, 2008 at 4:41 AM
Nice work there John, is it possible to move the stump or is it the remains of a dead tree..? Maybe bring it closer to you or away from the BG at least and then it will give a cleaner BG where DOF is concerned. Otherwsie the combination of head turns works fine for me as is. I'm sure if you are able to bait this log you will get something similar in the future particularly if this is a family grouping. Good luck with that and thanks for sharing.

Brett. :cool:

Ps. email sent.
Posted by John Robinson on July 21, 2008 at 4:48 AM
Thanks all.
Yes they are an adult male and young. Both parents come to the stump but they only appear to have one young, which may be another sign of the bad year we have had. (or should I say they have had) They wait for me to put the pastry mix out which often spoils the picture bujt in this case most of it had gone.
Nick -no, I was going to try stretching the RHS but gave up. I can see where you mean . Its the bit that looks like some buttocks !! :biggrin: The bush in the background there is a lilac.
Cheers
JohnR
Posted by Adam Seward on July 21, 2008 at 4:49 AM
I like this as it is too. I think the juvenile bird's head position is complimented by the adult's. You could get two good pictures for the price of one by cropping down the middle, but neither would be as interesting as the original.
Adam
Posted by Dawn Monrose on July 21, 2008 at 4:51 AM
Really nice shot! I think I like it as it is actually! Maybe, as mentioned with a little more room on the right. Really nicely exposed, and shows the difference between adult and juvenile well.

:toast:

Posted by John Robinson on July 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM
Sorry Nick you were right ! Well nearly. I've just found the original and I posted the wrong one. The one I found had the floating section still loose in a PSP file. It has the floating section I was about to stretch which wasn't even in position.The one I've reposted is the result of the stretch, which doesn't look right to me. That's probably why I never finished it.
Well spotted.
I could move the posts away from the background,but normally with a big tele the leaves are blurred enough anyway.This one with the two in was on a lower tele to get the DOF so the background is obviously more cluttered.
Cheers
JohnR
Posted by Kim Connolly on July 22, 2008 at 5:01 AM
Hi John
Great getting the two birds in one shot, I love the eye of the adult bird, so often they are half closed, and both the adult bird and the juvenile look sharp. It makes a cracking picture.
Posted by Magnus Hird on July 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Happy with this as is John, to get two of them on the same stump is something nice and I don't find the head turn a problem :smile: