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Greenfinch

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Posted by John Robinson on August 11, 2008 at 6:24 AM
Greenfinch
Greenfinch at pool.
D200
Sigma 40-500mm
ISO 640

125th @f11
JohnR
Posted by Jeroen Stel on August 11, 2008 at 6:27 AM
Hi John,

Lovely pose! Like the look backwards.
Wonder if "blurring" the surroundings might improve this one.

Greetings,

Jeroen Stel
Posted by Mark Fellowes on August 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Hi John

Very nice image - I like the pose and angle of view. I think that I've become a bit brainwashed and assume that all shots should have a creamy OOF background, but the BG here isn't distracting and I think adds context to the picture.

:toast:

Mark
Posted by Justin on August 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM
A good pose/angle of the bird.
Posted by Andy Shepherd on August 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM


Nice shot John, head turn works well, I'd forgotten how colourful Greenfinches can be.

Andy... :smile:
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on August 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Lovely detail John, but agree with Jeroen about the BG :toast:

Steve
Posted by John Robinson on August 11, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Thanks.
I'll have a go at the background later.
JohnR
Posted by Major Gilbert on August 11, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Fine looking specimen of a Greenfinch John.
I to would try some blur work on the BG. :toast:

Major.
Posted by John Robinson on August 11, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Thanks all.
I have looked at the comments and they seem to revolve around a "blurred background"
Are my eyes better than I thought ? The background to me is not particularly sharp.
Why does it need to be any more blurred? Is it a noise issue ?
JR
Posted by Justin on August 11, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Noise doesn't seem to be too much of an issue in the background it's just that it's quite distracting and draws the eye away from the bird, mainly because it's very light in colour particularly the areas of bright sky being reflected in the water. Of course that's just one way of looking at it and is only one person's opinion. On the other hand the background gives a good glimpse and indication of the bird's immediate surroundings and tells more of a story than a straight portrait would against a completely diffused backdrop. The water's clearly visible and the image portarays a bird on a perch very close to water where his next move could well be to have a drink or a bath.
Whether the image works or not is definately just down to personal preference and what the image means to you.
My initial reaction was that the background spoilt the portrait of the bird, but on reflection I now find it a more interesting image than I perhaps initially thought.
Posted by John Robinson on August 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Thanks Justin
Surely though ,if I blur the background it will look as though it was taken with a lens of a different focul length. But it was'nt ! So why fake it !!
It's all beyond me to be honest
JR
Posted by Justin on August 11, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Surely though ,if I blur the background it will look as though it was taken with a lens of a different focul length. But it was'nt ! So why fake it !!


I quite agree. I wasn't suggesting diffusing the background after the shot has been taken. I think if you want a blurred background then shoot it that way in the first place, which you clearly didn't anyway. Not that I'm knocking that technique as it could well be used to quite good effect in some circumstances I guess.
Give me ten minutes with a strimmer (I was meaning to say one of those hand tools with the short handle and curved blade, but my brain's gone dead and after 10 minutes of consulting a dictionary, I still couldn't find the spelling for what I was looking for) in preference to the blur tool any day of the week.

:biggrin:
Posted by John Robinson on August 11, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Justin
I know where you are at. Its basically that I am a naturalist taking nature pics not a photographer doing nature . Big difference maybe. This bird shot is as it was.
That'll do for me.I don't really enjoy the processing part
JohnR
Posted by Jeremy on August 12, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Don`t go a bundle on these birds against smooth backgrounds myself. Most may as well have been stuffed birds shot in a studio. So, I would leave the background as is, but I would crop out the vertical twig creeping in in lower left: I think that is distracting!