Posted by Carol Hyman on September 3, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Folks, I have no experience with pricing the license use of a photograph and need some input.
NPN received a request from an author who is publishing a book at the University of California Press.
I replied to the request and he has selected Inca Doves that I shot last winter. He wants to know mu terms of usage for a 300 dpi 10x10 image for a print run of 5000 copies with an international distribution.
I have no idea what to tell him and I would really appreciate input.
Posted by Richard Wong on September 4, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Alamy tends to be on the low-side compared to other pricing sources so it's good to check with multiple sources to get an idea for what you might be able to get.
Posted by Lon Overacker on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 AM
Carol,
I took a quick look at Myloupe.com, which I've been a member of for a number of years (anyone can look and sign up, but let's face it, landscapes don't sell with stock - for the most part.) Anyway, from what you describe, that price looks right in the ballpark.
However, I would not recommend you release that image as RF or Royalty Free. They would be buying that image - or the rights to that image - for an upfront cost, no matter where, when or how often that image is used. With Right's Managed, RM, you specify and agree on the terms, length of contract ,etc. In other words, what if they make a second print run and produce 10,000 more copies? They would need to re-license the image with new terms, or it could be specified up front with the initial contract.
But an inside page, for a 1yr term and 5,000 or less press run, world-wide, $200-$300 sounds about right.
Hopefully some of us here can make a sale!
Lon
Posted by Carol Hyman on September 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Lon and Richard, thank you for your thoughtful comments.
I think that most of us, in spite of public disdain for micro stock companies, submit images to one outfit or another, and honestly, until last night, I never gave much thought to the various meanings of licensing terms. I've learned a great deal just in the process of determining how to price one image.
I'm going to toot Rick's horn for him. Even tho' he's mighty quiet about it, he too has had an image selected for inclusion in the same book.
It would be so nice if NPN received many more requests than we do.
I wonder what we can all do to promote that happening? Something to think about ........
Carol
Posted by Steve Sieren on September 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I would have to agree w/ Lon on the RF issue.
Booo on RF rights. Unless it's not worthy of your portfolio.
I replied to one of the last requests for Ars Armani. They wanted to buy about 10 seascapes of mine to sell as fine art prints on canvas. I gave them a good price w/ out all the details of an agreement and they replied back to me offering a 100 dollars per image. If anyone wants their email address let me know. That would not be worth it to me.
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7 repliesNPN received a request from an author who is publishing a book at the University of California Press.
I replied to the request and he has selected Inca Doves that I shot last winter. He wants to know mu terms of usage for a 300 dpi 10x10 image for a print run of 5000 copies with an international distribution.
I have no idea what to tell him and I would really appreciate input.
A heartfelt thanks,
Carol
Me too. Help??
I think you meant to put international distribution.
Rick T
I've found two sources... One here.
http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0805/cb0805-1.html
and the other here.
http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm
and I also went to Alamy and a one-time RF price for a 10x10 would be about 245.
Hope this helps...
Carol
Rick T
I took a quick look at Myloupe.com, which I've been a member of for a number of years (anyone can look and sign up, but let's face it, landscapes don't sell with stock - for the most part.) Anyway, from what you describe, that price looks right in the ballpark.
However, I would not recommend you release that image as RF or Royalty Free. They would be buying that image - or the rights to that image - for an upfront cost, no matter where, when or how often that image is used. With Right's Managed, RM, you specify and agree on the terms, length of contract ,etc. In other words, what if they make a second print run and produce 10,000 more copies? They would need to re-license the image with new terms, or it could be specified up front with the initial contract.
But an inside page, for a 1yr term and 5,000 or less press run, world-wide, $200-$300 sounds about right.
Hopefully some of us here can make a sale!
Lon
I think that most of us, in spite of public disdain for micro stock companies, submit images to one outfit or another, and honestly, until last night, I never gave much thought to the various meanings of licensing terms. I've learned a great deal just in the process of determining how to price one image.
I'm going to toot Rick's horn for him. Even tho' he's mighty quiet about it, he too has had an image selected for inclusion in the same book.
It would be so nice if NPN received many more requests than we do.
I wonder what we can all do to promote that happening? Something to think about ........
Carol
Booo on RF rights. Unless it's not worthy of your portfolio.
I replied to one of the last requests for Ars Armani. They wanted to buy about 10 seascapes of mine to sell as fine art prints on canvas. I gave them a good price w/ out all the details of an agreement and they replied back to me offering a 100 dollars per image. If anyone wants their email address let me know. That would not be worth it to me.