Posted by keith mitchell on September 6, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Please let me know what you think,i know this bird is maybe not as sharp as it should be but i am pleased with the feel of the picture.hope the coposition and warmth of the picture makes up for the lack of sharpness.
I am interested to know which is the more important to have a super sharp bird on a perch or one that as an artistic feel about it,suppose i should strive to get both.
Like to say i am very much a novice photography and would appreciate your comments.
Keith.
Posted by John Robinson on September 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Kieth
I wish i could get rid of my flying phobia to get shots like this.!!
As you say- not pin sharp but that's not always everything. The blown bit on the belly is a bit distracting and could be sorted I reckon. There is a some noise in the background which could be sorted too.
Is this a big crop ? , because making the image smaller might help the sharpness a bit. It looks like its come off a horizontal- maybe not.
I like it very much.
I would love to have it as one of mine.
Cheers
John
Posted by keith mitchell on September 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Hi John.
Thanks for your advise and encouragement.
Cheers Keith.
Posted by Tom Smit on September 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Not a bad one at all.
Posted by Matt Cole on September 7, 2008 at 3:23 AM
it's a lovely looking bird and the composition is very nice. I agree about the softness and the slight blown patch. Still a nice shot.
Matt
Posted by jack chapman on September 7, 2008 at 8:03 AM
a bit soft but other than that very nice
Posted by Bertl Menegoni on September 7, 2008 at 8:15 AM
Hi Keith,
great shot so far,
I would cut the empty room from the lower part of the image.
Color and comp works good for me.
I think in this great forum here dokumentary nature photography is preferred.
So it has to be SHARP!
Otherwise I mean that dokumentary nature photography can also very artful.
Bertl
Posted by eric weight on September 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM
There have been some great artistic shots on here, and I don't find any type of image to be better than any other - just different.
I like the Bg and the subject on this shot, but it looks to me as though the plane of focus is about where its feet are. Get the eye sharp and you can get away with soft feet to some extent. Have you already applied some noise reduction to this? I would try to use some NR on the Bg only.
Potentially a lovely shot, it just needs a little more work.
PS Andy Astbury is sure to shout at you if you crop square, so be warned! Eric
I'm afraid that for me the softness does spoil this picture. I cannot equate out of focus with 'artistic'. An image that is shot at low speeds and therefore shows a deal of 'artistic' movement can work very well but on a shot like this then the first rule is to have it correctly focused. In my opinion this is an 'almost' image, basically a very nice but flawed capture of a beautiful subject.
Robert
Beautiful bird, good unobtrusive perch, nice light and background but the softness and the blown highlights on the bird's side spoil the image for me.
Posted by keith mitchell on September 7, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Thanks to all for your comments i am sure i will learn from them.
Eric i am not into noise reduction yet but hope to find out about it soon.
Bertl i understand where you are coming from and will try to keep things sharp.
Tom,Matt,and Jack thanks.
Robert i understand what you are saying..
Cheers Keith.
Posted by John Robinson on September 7, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Kieth
I know you use Paint Shop Pro.
For noise, (if you haven't got neat image etc) you can try adjust/ noise/ edge preserving smooth with a value of about 3 set. I use it a lot.
As for sharpness - to be honest if it aint there you won't get it.
Cheers
John
Discussion
11 repliesI am interested to know which is the more important to have a super sharp bird on a perch or one that as an artistic feel about it,suppose i should strive to get both.
Like to say i am very much a novice photography and would appreciate your comments.
Keith.
I wish i could get rid of my flying phobia to get shots like this.!!
As you say- not pin sharp but that's not always everything. The blown bit on the belly is a bit distracting and could be sorted I reckon. There is a some noise in the background which could be sorted too.
Is this a big crop ? , because making the image smaller might help the sharpness a bit. It looks like its come off a horizontal- maybe not.
I like it very much.
I would love to have it as one of mine.
Cheers
John
Thanks for your advise and encouragement.
Cheers Keith.
Matt
great shot so far,
I would cut the empty room from the lower part of the image.
Color and comp works good for me.
I think in this great forum here dokumentary nature photography is preferred.
So it has to be SHARP!
Otherwise I mean that dokumentary nature photography can also very artful.
Bertl
I like the Bg and the subject on this shot, but it looks to me as though the plane of focus is about where its feet are. Get the eye sharp and you can get away with soft feet to some extent. Have you already applied some noise reduction to this? I would try to use some NR on the Bg only.
Potentially a lovely shot, it just needs a little more work.
PS Andy Astbury is sure to shout at you if you crop square, so be warned!
Robert
Beautiful bird, good unobtrusive perch, nice light and background but the softness and the blown highlights on the bird's side spoil the image for me.
Eric i am not into noise reduction yet but hope to find out about it soon.
Bertl i understand where you are coming from and will try to keep things sharp.
Tom,Matt,and Jack thanks.
Robert i understand what you are saying..
Cheers Keith.
I know you use Paint Shop Pro.
For noise, (if you haven't got neat image etc) you can try adjust/ noise/ edge preserving smooth with a value of about 3 set. I use it a lot.
As for sharpness - to be honest if it aint there you won't get it.
Cheers
John