Posted by Pedro Bento on November 5, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Hi guys,
I Need help on choosing a Full ND Filter (8 to 10 stops). Love to listen your opinion, any review article, brands (b&w, hoya, singh ray) especially regarding quality of the glass and color cast.
I saw an Hoya ND 400 (8stops), anyone have used this filter? Any feedback?
Thanks,
Pedro.
Posted by David Bostedo on November 5, 2008 at 1:40 PM
I have a Hoya multi-coated 4 stop. It seems well made and I haven't had any problems with it from color casting or quality loss. It's a bit tough to get really clean, but I think most multi-coated filters are. There are some newer coatings out there now that are supposed to be better, but I haven't heard much about them.
So I haven't owned any of the other higher end brands, but I've been very happy with Hoya.
Posted by Kelly Rowe on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM
I use the Singh-Ray Vari-ND. No color cast. Variable from 2 to 8 stops. http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html
I have a10 stop B+W. Optically it is very good, as are all B+W products, IMO. Very solid build. It does produce a bit of magenta cast to photos, but I think that it has more to do with the fact that it is so dark, the camera can't set a WB accurately. Its easily fixed if you shoot RAW. 10 stops has quite an effect on exposure times. In bright mid day light, it is easy to get exposures in the 1-2 minute range at middle range apertures of f/10 to f/18. The biggest drawback is that you can't see through the viewfinder with the filter attached. its completely black. My meathod is to compose and shoot a scene with no filter, getting the optimum exposure, attatch the filter, then calculate the exposure difference and shoot again. It is a bit of a tedious process, but i kind of enjoy the slow, methodical mindset it puts me in. I hope this helps. I could post a link to some landscape pics using the 10stop if you are interested.
Posted by Pedro Bento on November 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Kelly,
How is Vari-ND in wide angle. Does it vignet a lot? How slim is the filter (mm/inch)?
Aaron,
Yes I'm interested in saw some photos.
Any more feedback would be apreciated, especially if anyone have the Hoya ND400 (8 stops)
Posted by David Bostedo on November 5, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Pedro - One correction Pedro...the one I have is only two stops. I confused myself because Hoya calls it an "ND4". Sorry about that. In Hoya terminology, ND4 is 2 stops, ND8 is 3 stops. I don't know why they don't call an 8 stop filer ND256 - which would follow the same pattern.
Posted by Steve Sieren on November 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM
I would have to disagree on the Vari ND. I get really bad results, blotchy spots. You might ask if I'm using past the maximum setting. No. It still doesn't work. It might be the large image sensor combined w/ the wide angle(17mm). My guess it works better w/ small sensors not used on wide angle lenses. So with that being said would like to buy mine ? Now a days with good iso low noise levels you could probably do better with a 10 stop and a 4 or 5 to deal with the range you might run into. The 10 comes in handy in summer when light is it's brightest. Here is a link to one that had to be FIXED IN PHOTOSHOP. Really didn't like having to do that. http://sieren.smugmug.com/gallery/913154_HETVj/1/366242826_cjiHd/Medium
I should really show the before shot. There is still a noticable cast and lumince in the upper right.
Posted by David Rogers on November 8, 2008 at 9:54 PM
I have B&W ND filters for 0.3, 0.6, 0.9,and 1.8 (1 stop, 2 stop, 3 stop, and 6 stop). I take them wherever I go. Midday shot using a Canon20D and a 17-40L @40mm, stacked 1.8 & 0.9 ND filters, f/22, 15 sec., ISO200
Discussion
7 repliesI Need help on choosing a Full ND Filter (8 to 10 stops). Love to listen your opinion, any review article, brands (b&w, hoya, singh ray) especially regarding quality of the glass and color cast.
I saw an Hoya ND 400 (8stops), anyone have used this filter? Any feedback?
Thanks,
Pedro.
So I haven't owned any of the other higher end brands, but I've been very happy with Hoya.
How is Vari-ND in wide angle. Does it vignet a lot? How slim is the filter (mm/inch)?
Aaron,
Yes I'm interested in saw some photos.
Any more feedback would be apreciated, especially if anyone have the Hoya ND400 (8 stops)
I should really show the before shot. There is still a noticable cast and lumince in the upper right.