Posted by Ian Mason on November 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
1D2n, 600mm f4 is, 1/160s, f4, iso 800.
I had to remove the teleconverter to get maximum light in very dreary conditions. Interested to hear your thoughts on the background. I had to use a fair amount of noise reduction (not on bird). I use the NR filter in PS. I know some use other software for NR and I wonder if people find it to be better than PS?
Posted by Tim Gregory on November 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Nice shot Ian!
I guess noise is one of those funny topics. In my opinion it all depends on what the final output of the image will be, whether its just going to be displayed on the web, or printed..
If I have an image where there its lots of noise present in the shadows or background I generally use noise ninja, then use a layer mask and "colour" it out with a brush.
Other times when noise isn't that much of an issue, a single pass of noise reduction before any adjustments, is all thats needed..
I think the noise reduction tool in Photoshop is good as any, I simply use noise ninja because I like the additional control and interface.. Although its ability to look in the exif, detect the camera model and apply a generic noise reduction profile for that camera and the ISO setting, is pretty cool!
Posted by eric weight on November 7, 2008 at 1:29 AM
I use Noise Ninja a lot and frequently use it on my backgrounds irrespective of how bad the noise is before using layer mask to remove its effect from the subject. I find that it makes the subject pop well and doesn't look as artificial as using the blur tools to achieve similar ends.
My 1.6 cameras generate quite a lot of noise from 400 iso upwards and this year I don't hardly seem to have had a lot of choice but to up the iso. I rarely use it on the subject if I can help it and if I do it is the absolutely bare minimum as it melts detail if you overdo it.
there are a lot of controls in Noise Ninja which I don't fully understand yet and I know having spoken to Mr Astbury that they can have some very useful effects once you get to use them.
Nice shot and bg BTW. Shows up the colours well. Could maybe do with losing the intruding leaves at the top. Eric
Something I have never used and probably shows I am sure in my images, however, without hi-jacking Ian's thread, can someone also suggest a product for Macs as NN is purely PC I gather!
The image Ian I agree with Eric comments and would like to see a more 'narrower' crop IMHO
Something I have never used and probably shows I am sure in my images, however, without hi-jacking Ian's thread, can someone also suggest a product for Macs as NN is purely PC I gather!
The image Ian I agree with Eric comments and would like to see a more 'narrower' crop IMHO
Steve
Posted by Tim Gregory on November 7, 2008 at 6:44 AM
Hi Steve,
I use the Noise Ninja Photoshop plugin for Mac, you can get it for both systems.
Posted by Craig Nash on November 7, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I use Neat Image.
Posted by Magnus Hird on November 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Wicked colours Ian. Agree about losing the leaves at the top - not quite enough to hint at habitat
Discussion
7 repliesI had to remove the teleconverter to get maximum light in very dreary conditions. Interested to hear your thoughts on the background. I had to use a fair amount of noise reduction (not on bird). I use the NR filter in PS. I know some use other software for NR and I wonder if people find it to be better than PS?
I guess noise is one of those funny topics. In my opinion it all depends on what the final output of the image will be, whether its just going to be displayed on the web, or printed..
If I have an image where there its lots of noise present in the shadows or background I generally use noise ninja, then use a layer mask and "colour" it out with a brush.
Other times when noise isn't that much of an issue, a single pass of noise reduction before any adjustments, is all thats needed..
I think the noise reduction tool in Photoshop is good as any, I simply use noise ninja because I like the additional control and interface.. Although its ability to look in the exif, detect the camera model and apply a generic noise reduction profile for that camera and the ISO setting, is pretty cool!
My 1.6 cameras generate quite a lot of noise from 400 iso upwards and this year I don't hardly seem to have had a lot of choice but to up the iso. I rarely use it on the subject if I can help it and if I do it is the absolutely bare minimum as it melts detail if you overdo it.
there are a lot of controls in Noise Ninja which I don't fully understand yet and I know having spoken to Mr Astbury that they can have some very useful effects once you get to use them.
Nice shot and bg BTW. Shows up the colours well. Could maybe do with losing the intruding leaves at the top.
The image Ian I agree with Eric comments and would like to see a more 'narrower' crop IMHO
Streve
The image Ian I agree with Eric comments and would like to see a more 'narrower' crop IMHO
Steve
I use the Noise Ninja Photoshop plugin for Mac, you can get it for both systems.