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Another Coal Tit + repost!

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Posted by Fran French on January 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Another Coal Tit + repost!
Still been trying to get a half decent shot of these 'mini rockets' of the bird world, and on an improved perch after my last post :biggrin: Hopefully I have succeeded this time!

Thanks for all your help on my last upload :smile:

40D, EF300mm f/4L IS USM +1.4x,ISO 800, F10, 1/80Sec, tripod, shot through glass. Cropped and sharpened.

Fran

:toast:
Posted by Brett Lewis on January 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM
HI Fran, looks like your efforts are starting to pay off. This is a really nice interpretation on your original post and think this is working better for you. It is hard to get these fast moving little ones and so take my hat off to you for that. Nice detail and good use of the Leylandii..?? I had a look at this by flipping on the horizontal plane and it works better for me but is fine the way it is also.. I guess that follows on nicely from an earlier posted question..

Nice one Fran :toast: :toast:
Posted by John Robinson on January 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM
That's nice !
Maybe a bit too much space right but a good one :smile:
JR
Edit Sorry fran off the left .
Posted by Fran French on January 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Thanks guys for your comments, and Brett... yes it is Leylandii :smile:

Fran :toast:
Posted by David Sewell on January 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM
I think Leylandii actually suits a coal tit, a bird I associate with conifers. This is one of your best to date Fran, my only nit is that I think it could take a bit of a boost in the contrast, it looks a little flat on my screen. Otherwise a lovely shot.

David
Posted by Ian Mason on January 13, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Nice shot of a bird I also enjoy chasing. I agree the contrast could be increased a little and you could afford to lose a bit from the left (I presume John meant left rather than right - maybe not :rolleyes: ) It's good that you included the foliage.
Posted by John Robinson on January 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Right Ian ! Sorry Fran - left !
Alright ! :biggrin:
JohnR
Posted by Fran French on January 13, 2009 at 1:43 PM
LOL I knew that's what you meant John :biggrin:
Posted by Bertl Menegoni on January 13, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I like this as it is Fran. The bird is in a nice pose,
perfect catch light, BG, detail, ...
all you can wish is here. :toast: :toast:
have fun,
Bertl
Posted by Greg Hitchcock on January 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Nice shot, Fran, well captured, though I'm not overly keen on the perch, still, you use what you've got...

Greg
Posted by keith mitchell on January 13, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Nice shot Fran,pity we can't always get them to perch where we would like them,but just getting them to stay still long enough is good fun.
Lovely little bird very well caught.
Keith.

Posted by Vincent Jones on January 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM
For me, I like everything about it.

Loads of detail Fran & brillianty exposed in the right areas, for me its a great perch with the bonus of a complimentary background.

10 ouf 10 from me :wavey: :toast: :toast:
Posted by Robert Lawrence on January 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Lovely composition Fran. I like the space to the left, it works well as does the use of the pano format. I agree however that it could do with a bit more 'punch', if it were mine I'd definitely ty tweaking the contrast.
Robert
Posted by eric weight on January 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM
I like this better than the last, lots of nice detail and he is out in the open too. Very nice. Whip a bit off the lhs for me too.
:toast: Eric
Posted by Fran French on January 13, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Seem to have a mixed reaction here. I have taken on board your comments, cropped and upped the contrast a tad. I think it's an improvement ..... :toast:
Posted by Ray on January 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM
I think you have done really well here, to capture this Coal Tit. It is really superb.

But I'm sorry, the perch just doesn't work for me, too staged, will explain further if you wish.
Posted by PhilH on January 14, 2009 at 4:03 AM
Nice one Fran... Coal Tit + conifer go together, I think Ray's problem with the perch may be that Leylandii is bushy?.... perhaps another go getting it perched on a pine cone or similar....

Speak soon

:toast: :wavey: :toast:
Posted by Ray on January 14, 2009 at 5:10 AM
Phil you got it, except that the leaves are "growing" out of the frame, thus the bird is facing into the centre of the Leylandii, so where is it ?? Should be very bushy, on the L.H. side.

Re pine cones, my thoughts exactly, but small ones and the end of the branch, would work well with Yew as well, particularly if it had berries on it. The possibilities are endless.
Posted by John Chapman on January 14, 2009 at 5:43 AM
Nice capture Fran and I like the second post better. :toast:
Posted by Fran French on January 14, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Thanks Phil and Ray, I see where you are coming from. Trouble is I have been under the weather and not been able to gather many thoughts on the subject, nor getting out to gather the greenery etc for that matter. Your help is much appreciated.

Fran :toast:
Posted by Magnus Hird on January 14, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Really nice shot Fran, I'll add my vote to Robert's for the pano crop (which I thought was really strong) but with the re-processing you've done on the repost. Get well soon :smile:
Posted by Lee Newman on January 14, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Nice shot. Good details, nice background & I think the perch looks fine. the second crop has the edge.

Lee
Posted by Ray on January 15, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Fran

Getting the right perch can be a bit of an art. You have to bear in mind the intended subject, and would it naturally occur there regularly.

I was once in a folio where an image of a Wood Mouse was circulated. It was a cracking shot, exposure, composition were all spot on. As a bonus it was also very photogenic, sitting on top of a fence post, you know the type, rusty barbed wire etc.. It receive unanimous praise. There was a couple of problems with it tho’, why was it there ?? There wasn’t any food/water, besides wouldn’t the top of the fence post be where the OWL, would be sitting ??

There is a certain web site, by a well know profesional photographer. On the site is a shot of a tawny Owl sitting in a large hole in a tree, the hole goes right through, and you can see the moon in the background. Now there is only one thing wrong with this otherwise superb shot. To make the moon right, you would have to flip the shot. Thus the owl become a BAT. When mentioned, I was told it was deliberate, so everyone would know it was a studio set-up. Yeh, right.

Attention to small details, really can make all the difference.
Posted by Fran French on January 15, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Thanks Magnus and Lee for your kind comments and well wishes.

Ray, I fully understand what you are saying to me, and I shall be concentrating on your suggestions in the near future, You have brought up some very good points of which I shall take into consideration next time I get out and about. Many thanks.

Fran :toast: