Posted by Marc Adamus on January 31, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Light and clearing clouds revealing glacial fields on the north face of Mount Rainier.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Posted by Ray Still on January 31, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Marc.
Great to see a B&W conversion from your work. Really like the contrast in this capture. One nit I would have is the dark rock at the bottom of the frame on the left corner is somewhat of a distraction for me. As always very nice work.
Ray Still
Posted by Ned Fenimore on January 31, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Very good work with the B&W - probably the best way for this type of shot.. just enough of the face showing in the clearing too - good balance of fog and clarity..
Posted by Steve Cole on January 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Meh. This one doesn't evoke much response for me. The break in the clouds is cropped too close at the top of the frame- I'd like to see a bit more space at the top to give it the space it needs.
Personally, a more interesting composition is a tighter crop (or zoom) on the anvil-like outcrop in the left-center foreground with the icefall & crevases as the background.
Posted by Marc Adamus on January 31, 2009 at 2:39 PM
I truly appreciate the fact that I can post 'just whatever' on this forum on a whim and get some honest feedback. Thanks! This one strikes a chord with me but I have no idea why. Just figured I'd throw it up here to see if anyone else felt the same. Whether you do or don't, thanks again.
I'm not doing cartwheels over this one, Marc. I think it needs something to anchor it down, and give a better sense of scale. Something to relate to. This would be a great photo if there were a person of two hiking out on the rocky diagonal outcropping in the lower left third.
Posted by Matt Anderson on January 31, 2009 at 4:23 PM
I find the composition lacking a coherent sequence overall as the near horizontal lines prevent my eye from reaching into the upper background fluidly. The heavy eye catching contrast is at the bottom, but IMHO the main draw is the upper power of the Mountains. Oil and Water.
It's not the composition Marc, which is not one of your best, it's the feeling it evokes. It strikes a chord with you because you have a direct memory of this event, which was wonderful to witness, I'm sure. While not your best, comp wise, you were still succsessful in being able to communicate to the viewer some of what you felt at the time, IMO.
Posted by Marc Dilley on January 31, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Looking at this with climber's eyes, not photographer's eyes, I really like it. I like the light on the icefield, and the half-hidden (Willis?) wall behind is imposing. Actually, the only thing that bothers me is the dark boulder along the lower left edge that could be cloned out.
Posted by Thomas Dean on January 31, 2009 at 10:48 PM
I get the feeling that I'm looking down at the side of a mountain...which is quite disconcerting but not all that pleasing. Something to give a sense of direction would be nice.
Posted by Ryan Dyar on February 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM
I am gonna break away from the crowd here... I really like it! I think some people are trying to compare this to your more popular near-far mountain shots, which I dont think you were going for here, or maybe you were... I dont know. But it works for me as an almost abstract-like take on a mountain landscape. The heavier contrast and tightly framed peak is very diffrent from a lot of your work, and I think its working for this shot. My only suggestion is the rock in the bottom of the frame might be worthy of some cloning. Cool shot man.
Posted by Richard Sogn on February 1, 2009 at 1:54 AM
The first time I looked at it, I didn't care for it, but I now think it was because I was expecting something different from you. You should have posted it under a different name. This is the third time that I've looked at it (taking a needed break from helping my daughter with college geography), and I think it's a beautiful abstract that creates a lot of mood.
Posted by John Lehmkuhl on February 1, 2009 at 2:30 AM
Very different - tough to tell where you are in a way. Not killing me but it is different, no doubt around that !!
Posted by Bryan Swan on February 1, 2009 at 6:12 AM
Aaah, good ol' Willis.
I think this works. Not quite as well as it could, but the sense of scale, grandeur and bleakness of the glacial terrain paints a very distinct picture. I've tried shooting a few similar to this because glaciers can provide a fantastic sense of scale, though I've found it works better if some trees can be included at the bottom of the frame. Still, I like it.
Posted by Rick Dunn on February 1, 2009 at 10:47 AM
I think for folks familiar with the scene, they'll have a pre-existing sense of scale that lends impact to the scene. Lacking that myself, I'm struggling to connect. I can imagine how powerful it would be with a person on the snowfield or, as others have suggested, trees somewhere in-frame.
Posted by brian price on February 27, 2009 at 10:28 PM
it has potential to be a much stronger and richer image with some simple adjustments. it's abit too flat on contrast and doesn't draw your eye to anything in particular which doesn't work well in this instance. if you increase it abit the glacier will stand out more and become a better focal point for the image. something to draw you in. the difference subtle but significant,imho.
also, a careful crop of the bottom of the image to midway through the bottom snowfield will give a better flow and a more graphic look to the entire image, as well. the lower rocks mess that up and detract heavily from the overall feel.
i'd be happy to post a version i'm talking about but don't want to step on any toes with my first post to this site. if it's okay with you then i will.
Posted by Mark Hudon on February 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
To hell with this, let's see some shots of Galen!
Posted by Darren White on March 1, 2009 at 12:08 PM
the processing is great as always.
for me its about what I am looking at and in this image I do not know if I am looking up or down......I can't get a grip with the perspective.....
Discussion
17 repliesThanks for your thoughts.
Great to see a B&W conversion from your work. Really like the contrast in this capture. One nit I would have is the dark rock at the bottom of the frame on the left corner is somewhat of a distraction for me. As always very nice work.
Ray Still
Personally, a more interesting composition is a tighter crop (or zoom) on the anvil-like outcrop in the left-center foreground with the icefall & crevases as the background.
I think this works. Not quite as well as it could, but the sense of scale, grandeur and bleakness of the glacial terrain paints a very distinct picture. I've tried shooting a few similar to this because glaciers can provide a fantastic sense of scale, though I've found it works better if some trees can be included at the bottom of the frame. Still, I like it.
also, a careful crop of the bottom of the image to midway through the bottom snowfield will give a better flow and a more graphic look to the entire image, as well. the lower rocks mess that up and detract heavily from the overall feel.
i'd be happy to post a version i'm talking about but don't want to step on any toes with my first post to this site. if it's okay with you then i will.
for me its about what I am looking at and in this image I do not know if I am looking up or down......I can't get a grip with the perspective.....