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Printer for BW prints up to A4

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Posted by Prashant Khapane on March 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM
I already have R1800 and do not need A3 for my BW work. I'm interested in square prints of maximum size 11x11". And I need pure BW, no matter what people might suggest am not getting cast-free BW prints from R2400. Am i doing something wrong?

The important question, can you suggest any printer upto this size? Should I perhaps go for dedicated BW inks?
Posted by Howard Cihak on March 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Color casts in black & white prints is called metamerism. It's the result of all those colored inks in the printer. I found the best way around that problem is the go online for QuadTone RIP. It's shareware software that works great, IMO. And there's no need to go for a different ink set. Of course, the last thing you want to do is switch ink sets in a printer. That's said to be a fast shortcut to a clogged printhead.

If you do download QuadTone RIP, and decide you like it, don't forget to send the $50 to the guy who created it.
Posted by Scott Kathe on March 31, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Did you try using the ABW mode of the printer? Make sure you don't have photoshop manage the colors. Use the ABW mode in the printer software. That being said I don't have a 2400 but I do have the 3800 though I have not done a black and white print yet which is surprising because I thought I would be doing a lot of black and white prints. The black and white print samples I got from Epson made on both of these printers were fantastic to my eye.
Posted by Scott Kathe on March 31, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I did a little bit of looking for you and I would definitely try this out:
http://www.cjcom.net/articles/digiprn9.htm
Clayton Jones is a great person to go to for black and white printing advise.
Posted by Paul Wegemann on March 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Clayton Jones also references Paul Roark who is a very knowledgeable source of BW info, especially using the R1800 with QTR.
Posted by Prashant Khapane on April 1, 2009 at 6:36 AM
thanks a lot guys. Yes, I tried QuadTone RIP and may be am missing something. I will give it another try.
Color casts in black & white prints is called metamerism.>> Umm, ok. I thought it is something else.

That's said to be a fast shortcut to a clogged printhead. >>> really? and why so?

Thanks a lot.
Posted by David Bostedo on April 1, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Metamerism is something else PrashanTeju....as far as I know, it's the shifting of colors under different light sources. Sometimes this appears to be a color cast in the shadows or highlights or certain colors.

If it's an even, overall cast, it's either a problem with your printer or printer profiles. Have you looked into getting a custom B&W profile done? I've never done it, but it could really help I've heard. Eric Chan (an Adobe employee and avid nature photographer) offers them specifically for Epson Adv. B&W mode.
Posted by Nat Coalson on April 1, 2009 at 11:31 AM
I've had great results with the Epson ABW system on my 9800, but the best BW I've made were on my Epson 2200 I converted for Jon Cone's Piezography (selenium K7).

The system uses black and gray inks made with pure carbon pigment along with the QuadTone RIP - absolutely no metamerism and due to the screening algorithms the detail is phenomenal.

Highly recommended!
Posted by Prashant Khapane on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 AM
Thanks Nat for the help. It looks like something am looking for...