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Spider with parasite?

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Posted by Tim Gregory on March 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Spider with parasite?
I picked up my MP-E 65mm and Macro flashes at the weekend, intent on doing some of the bugs and other stuff during the spring. I found this spider in the garden with what appears to be some sort of parasite clinging too it. It made my skin crawl, and I know its not the best picture but I thought i'd post it because i've not seen anything like it before!

Any ideas what the parasite actually does? I assume it'll kill the spider, but is it perhaps related to some sort of Wasp?

Posted by Chris Johnstone on March 31, 2009 at 6:28 PM
That's horrible! :razz: You lucked out finding that!

I'm not sure what it is or what it does but if it's any good at being a parasite, it won't kill the spider, at least until it moves on from its present phase in the life cycle. The genus 'orb-spider' (to be very scientific about it) springs to mind but I have no idea if that's right or not.

To clone/crop out the bits down the right hand side would help I think.

Nice capture.

Chris
Posted by Daniel Read on April 1, 2009 at 4:02 AM
Wow, is this in the UK? It's likely to be the larvae of a parasitoid wasp. Unfortunately this is a terminal association, and the larvae will weave a cocoon around the host and the spider will eventually be consumed alive and die. Fascinating stuff!

Cheers,

Dan.
Posted by PhilH on April 1, 2009 at 4:20 AM
Daniel beat me to it, parasitic wasp.... a fascinating image, even if not technically perfect... thank you for sharing.

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Posted by Brett Lewis on April 1, 2009 at 4:22 AM
Very interesting and unusual capture Tim, nice work. If what Dan says is true then there is a nice related article to be found on the BBC website here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/841401.stm

Thanks for taking the time to share with us.

Brett :toast: :toast:
Posted by Daniel Read on April 1, 2009 at 7:11 AM
On a side note, there was some fantastic video footage of this in a recent BBC wildlife series - probably 'Life in the Undergrowth'. Well worth checking out.

Dan.
Posted by Tim Gregory on April 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Cheers

I'll keep my eye on it because it seems to have a web in the garden and "appears" to be acting normally, so i'll go and have another look tomorrow.

The MP-E 65 setup is very impressive, everything looks alien and bizarre, although its very difficult to use.. I'll try and get some better pictures tomorrow!


Posted by Greg Hitchcock on April 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Hi Tim,

Interesting shot. The spider is a Tetragnatha species, and the parasitoid is a parasitic wasp larva of the subfamily Pimplinae (family Ichneumonidae). (Parasitoid rather than parasite, as it eventually kills the host).

Greg
Posted by Tom Smit on April 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Unusual shot, but very interesting. Have not seen this before.
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