Posted by Jason Denham on April 5, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Hello,
I've been lurking and learning here for several months. I thought I'd throw out an image for some feedback.
I hiked into this small falls (~15') last weekend and enjoyed photographing it. While I realize it is not a covershot, I'd appreciate some C&C on how I could improve the photo or make better use of the scene. I'm very interested in learning and there are many of you with the skills to lend a hand.
Bigger one here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3662/3396600060_122f3fe9ff_o.jpg
Photo info:
Canon XT
Tamron 18-200 @ 18mm
ISO 100, F-18, 1 sec, B&W circ polarizer
Tripod mid-stream
Tony Kuiper luminosity masks and Marc Adamus sharpening for web in CS3
Thanks,
Jason Denham
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasondenham/
Posted by John Williams on April 5, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Hi Jason, welcome!
That's a nice composition with a good flow, and the water looks just right to my eye. On my monitor though, it has a strong yellow or yellow-greenish cast.
Now that your feet are wet (pun intended), keep 'em coming '
Posted by Mark Windom on April 6, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Good first post. I like the low vantage point you chose for this and the exposure is just right. I'ld be inclined to cool it down a bit though and remove some of the yellowish cast.
Posted by Marc Dilley on April 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Great first post Jason, and welcome to the forum! The color balance is definitely on the warm side. One nit pick: You might consider a crop from the bottom just above your name. The large, half-seen stone is not doing anything important and the little ripple above is much more interesting...
Posted by Darren White on April 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM
the overall scene is very very yellow....or gold.....I am wondering if a slight color balance would help to correct this shot...
I also feel you could have made the falls more subjective in this shot.....it looks like its just kinda out there to the right!
Posted by Jason Denham on April 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Thanks everyone for your comments! I can see now how the yellow in the photo above is overpowering, and more than what was at the scene. There was some tint to the rocks due to some growth that did give off a yellow cast, but not as much as I showed above. Also my images with the polarizer on are quite a bit more yellow than without the filter. FYI it was overcast/cloudy that day.
I've also tried to address the distracting foreground rock and the issue of the falls not having enough prominence in the image by cropping it differently. I'll try to imbed a link of the two versions here. The first one was white-balance corrected and cropped only: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3420450112_06c3b382a2_o.jpg
The 2nd take here is saving in CS3 'for web' which tends to punch up the colors a bit. When I post what I think are decently processed images to flickr, they looked washed out in comparison to within CS3--what gives with this? The only solution I've found so far is to 'save for web' within photoshop to liven the images up a bit--any preferences/suggestions here?: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3420454842_442e15b361_o.jpg
Thanks,
Jason Denham
Posted by Kosta Koeman on April 7, 2009 at 1:37 AM
For a first post, that is pretty nice. While the vegetation isn't that great, the exposure is. I also like the water, the waterfall and the water flowing past. Perfect in my opinion.
The two most common reasons for colors looking different in Photoshop as apposed to your browser are saving the file in a colorspace besides sRGB and browsers that are not color aware.
Although I often work in ProPhoto or Adobe RGB, I always convert to sRGB prior to saving.
If you want a colorspace aware browser, Firefox 3 is color aware (you have to activate it, it's off by default) and so is Safari. Most people use browsers that are not colorspace aware, so many people don't worry about this issue; it allows them to see what others see when they view your photo.
Posted by Jason Denham on April 7, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Discussion
8 repliesI've been lurking and learning here for several months. I thought I'd throw out an image for some feedback.
I hiked into this small falls (~15') last weekend and enjoyed photographing it. While I realize it is not a covershot, I'd appreciate some C&C on how I could improve the photo or make better use of the scene. I'm very interested in learning and there are many of you with the skills to lend a hand.
Bigger one here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3662/3396600060_122f3fe9ff_o.jpg
Photo info:
Canon XT
Tamron 18-200 @ 18mm
ISO 100, F-18, 1 sec, B&W circ polarizer
Tripod mid-stream
Tony Kuiper luminosity masks and Marc Adamus sharpening for web in CS3
Thanks,
Jason Denham
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasondenham/
That's a nice composition with a good flow, and the water looks just right to my eye. On my monitor though, it has a strong yellow or yellow-greenish cast.
Now that your feet are wet (pun intended), keep 'em coming
I also feel you could have made the falls more subjective in this shot.....it looks like its just kinda out there to the right!
I've also tried to address the distracting foreground rock and the issue of the falls not having enough prominence in the image by cropping it differently. I'll try to imbed a link of the two versions here. The first one was white-balance corrected and cropped only: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3420450112_06c3b382a2_o.jpg
The 2nd take here is saving in CS3 'for web' which tends to punch up the colors a bit. When I post what I think are decently processed images to flickr, they looked washed out in comparison to within CS3--what gives with this? The only solution I've found so far is to 'save for web' within photoshop to liven the images up a bit--any preferences/suggestions here?: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3420454842_442e15b361_o.jpg
Thanks,
Jason Denham
The two most common reasons for colors looking different in Photoshop as apposed to your browser are saving the file in a colorspace besides sRGB and browsers that are not color aware.
Although I often work in ProPhoto or Adobe RGB, I always convert to sRGB prior to saving.
If you want a colorspace aware browser, Firefox 3 is color aware (you have to activate it, it's off by default) and so is Safari. Most people use browsers that are not colorspace aware, so many people don't worry about this issue; it allows them to see what others see when they view your photo.
Yes! That is it. Thank you. I remember doing that before on other photos... I've uploaded an sRGB version here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3386/3422368287_02caa72c95_o.jpg for those who wouldn't mind taking the time to look at it.
Thanks,
Jason