Posted by Patrick Nixon on April 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Hi, again. It's been a long winter. Recently purchased a D300; what a camera! Itching to get out to use it.
Meanwhile, here is a shot from last fall of the Presque Isle River in Porcupine Mountains State Park, MI. Weather during shooting was terrible, heavily overcast. But you take your shots where you can get 'em. Any comments?
Nikon D70s, ISO 200, 1/180s @ f/6.7, RAW, 6 MP, Adobe color space
Pat Nixon
Posted by Brian Vance on April 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM
I love this location, too, Pat, but I'm wondering why you considered these conditions 'terrible?' I generally head for falling water locations during overcast conditions so I can slow down the shutter speed enough to smooth out the water and avoid blowing out the whites. I also try and keep the white, overcast sky out of the frame by getting low to the water and accentuating the river, rocks and trees. Can you provide any of the technical details for this shot?
Posted by Patrick Nixon on April 13, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Sorry for the omission of the technical data, posted from a computer separate from the one holding the original image. Nikon D70s, ISO 200, 1/180s @ f/6.7, RAW, 6 MP, Adobe color space. Post-processed in Photoshop CS2 to slightly bring out the shadows in the trees.
As you can see from my portfolio, I am one of those infamous hard light/high contrast photographers. If I run into too much light, I use a neutral density filter or post-process to reduce contrast. Also, I find that scenes shot in Adobe color space (wider range, ideal for prints, especially commercial) often exhibit less color contrast when displayed in sRGB colorspace on a typical monitor.
When shooting RAW (Nikon NEF), it is possible to convert from Adobe to sRGB during post processing, but not the other way around. Perhaps I will create a second image in sRGB to see whether there is any difference.
Also, as I review the image now, I realize that this scene would have been an ideal candidate for combining two images to form one HDR image (bringing out more detail in the trees).
Posted by Brian Vance on April 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Pat, no need to apologize for anything. I'm guilty of posting pics without the technical details myself. I asked because in overcast conditions, I can control shutter speed and use filters and aperture settings to get the results I'm looking for. Your settings of f6.7 and ISO of 200 help me understand where you are coming from, and I appreciate your response.
Presque Isle River is a very intriguing location, based on my very limited experience there in 2006.
BTW, Pat, you're absolutely right about the color space gamut differences. Some time ago, I created an action in PS that automatically processes some color adjustments while converting from Adobe RGB to sRGB (for Web posting). Colors tend to wash out generally, which begs for a bit of a global saturation boost, and reds and greens (in particular) exhibit some hue shifts (both seem to mix in yellows to a large extent, making reds seem somewhat orange and greens somewhat yellow)...this really has an impact on scenes with fall color and spring scenes with their rich greens.
Posted by Chuck Beatty on April 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I like the lines in this image, Pat. I agree with Brian in that I prefer to extend the exposure time and smooth out the flowing water in a situation like this. Eliminating some of that bright sky can make that easier.
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7 repliesMeanwhile, here is a shot from last fall of the Presque Isle River in Porcupine Mountains State Park, MI. Weather during shooting was terrible, heavily overcast. But you take your shots where you can get 'em. Any comments?
Nikon D70s, ISO 200, 1/180s @ f/6.7, RAW, 6 MP, Adobe color space
Pat Nixon
As you can see from my portfolio, I am one of those infamous hard light/high contrast photographers. If I run into too much light, I use a neutral density filter or post-process to reduce contrast. Also, I find that scenes shot in Adobe color space (wider range, ideal for prints, especially commercial) often exhibit less color contrast when displayed in sRGB colorspace on a typical monitor.
When shooting RAW (Nikon NEF), it is possible to convert from Adobe to sRGB during post processing, but not the other way around. Perhaps I will create a second image in sRGB to see whether there is any difference.
Also, as I review the image now, I realize that this scene would have been an ideal candidate for combining two images to form one HDR image (bringing out more detail in the trees).
BTW, Pat, you're absolutely right about the color space gamut differences. Some time ago, I created an action in PS that automatically processes some color adjustments while converting from Adobe RGB to sRGB (for Web posting). Colors tend to wash out generally, which begs for a bit of a global saturation boost, and reds and greens (in particular) exhibit some hue shifts (both seem to mix in yellows to a large extent, making reds seem somewhat orange and greens somewhat yellow)...this really has an impact on scenes with fall color and spring scenes with their rich greens.