Posted by Colin Smale on April 20, 2009 at 3:45 AM
Speaking in particular for UK photographers because I think America does have a DVD source (I just cannot find it again)I really wish the top camera manufacturers would stop asking us to drive sometimes hundreds of miles to attend a tuition/seminar. If I were there for six hours I would be lucky to remember six minutes of it.
I have a suggestion, if they want to earn more cash why don't they SELL us tuition DVD's, surely there would be more takers for a DVD that you could refer to at anytime rather than trapes across the country and spend the day scribbling notes.
I further suggest they give us the choice of basic tuition and then maybe target sports, wildlife, portrait photographers.
Speaking as a wildlife photographer, wildlife photography demands totally different skills and camera settings to, say a portrait photographer. I know I know, bird photography is totally different to macro photography, so, let em make more DVD's.
I tripped over a totally fantastic American site, a real knowledgable female wildlife photographer giving tuition for the Nikon D3. I watched the first two sessions, about three minutes each and then, whammo, they wanted paying megabucks, I think it was something like $200 pa. Now that really is way over the top surely ? I have just tried to find the site again, can't find it. If you have just bought a Nikon D3 for example, such a DVD would be of great interest. (IMHO)
Posted by Cliff Forrest on April 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Hi Colin,
That's a great idea!!! When you mentioned how much gets remembered I actually remembered something. I heard it on the radio years ago. Father Guido Sarducci from the early Saturday Night Live shows, was offering a course in which he'd teach a person everything that would be remembered from four years of university. I think it was just one afternoon for two hours.
If people can see Photoshop tutorials, why not DVDs on other subjects? Brothers and Sisters RISE UP!!!
They'd sell like crazy.
Thanks Colin,
Cliff
Posted by Colin Smale on April 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Thanx for your comments Cliff, when I mentioned this to a fellow wildlife photographer (A Canon man) he also was extremely enthusiastic so..as you say Cliff, Brothers and Sisters RISE UP!!!
Posted by Colin Smale on April 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Thanx for your comments Cliff, when I mentioned this to a fellow wildlife photographer (A Canon man) he also was extremely enthusiastic so..as you say Cliff, Brothers and Sisters RISE UP!!!
Posted by Jim Bullard on April 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM
There are on-line possibilities as well. For example I subscribe to the Lynda.com on-line library. Most of it is how to use X software but she has been expanding content to "inspirational" topics. I'd bet that she'd be interested in field practice instruction if an author came up with some content. And then there is the Scott Kelby training video series (NAPP). Again it is mostly software training at this time but if someone were to propose field practice training videos...
Jim Bullard
P.S. Lynda.com offers the same training on DVDs for those who lack broadband or would prefer to learn off-line.
why not just go along to one of the photo days we organise on UKNP every now and then at different spots around the country. You get to meet a few like minded people (mix of pro/semi pro/am) and do a bit of networking - you also get a chance to discuss wildlife shooting, see various bits of kit... and have a fun time to boot . The friends you make last a lot longer than a DVD .
Posted by Colin Smale on April 22, 2009 at 4:02 AM
Yes, the woman was Laurie Excell and the site was Kelby Training. http://www.kelbytraining.com/instructors/laurie-excell.html
That's the kind of thing I mean. There are several wildlife photographers in the world who I think could make great DVD's which would not only inform camera buyers but further promote manufacturers such as Nikon.
Let me give an example of what would be on the DVD. Birds/flight photography. The technology still hasn't been reached where we can fix onto a bird in flight and the camera snaps onto focus and tracks bird across the sea/sky every time, sometimes the camera falls asleep and after 5 seconds the bird has gone, it happens. There are so many variables in setting up the camera for this task, what do they recomend and why ? What we don't want is "Here is the continuous focus button, here is the nine points setting" etc etc, that's far too basic. By the way, I do have my own settings and I certainly know the frustration of flight photography and Canon has exactly the same issues. A friend of mine has exactly the same gear except I am Nikon, he is Canon and when I have a focussing problem, he has same problem on same passing bird, we have done many many tests.
So, c'mon someone, earn some mony and make us happy to spend it but not $200.
Discussion
8 repliesI have a suggestion, if they want to earn more cash why don't they SELL us tuition DVD's, surely there would be more takers for a DVD that you could refer to at anytime rather than trapes across the country and spend the day scribbling notes.
I further suggest they give us the choice of basic tuition and then maybe target sports, wildlife, portrait photographers.
Speaking as a wildlife photographer, wildlife photography demands totally different skills and camera settings to, say a portrait photographer. I know I know, bird photography is totally different to macro photography, so, let em make more DVD's.
I tripped over a totally fantastic American site, a real knowledgable female wildlife photographer giving tuition for the Nikon D3. I watched the first two sessions, about three minutes each and then, whammo, they wanted paying megabucks, I think it was something like $200 pa. Now that really is way over the top surely ? I have just tried to find the site again, can't find it. If you have just bought a Nikon D3 for example, such a DVD would be of great interest. (IMHO)
That's a great idea!!! When you mentioned how much gets remembered I actually remembered something. I heard it on the radio years ago. Father Guido Sarducci from the early Saturday Night Live shows, was offering a course in which he'd teach a person everything that would be remembered from four years of university. I think it was just one afternoon for two hours.
If people can see Photoshop tutorials, why not DVDs on other subjects? Brothers and Sisters RISE UP!!!
They'd sell like crazy.
Thanks Colin,
Cliff
Jim Bullard
P.S. Lynda.com offers the same training on DVDs for those who lack broadband or would prefer to learn off-line.
why not just go along to one of the photo days we organise on UKNP every now and then at different spots around the country. You get to meet a few like minded people (mix of pro/semi pro/am) and do a bit of networking - you also get a chance to discuss wildlife shooting, see various bits of kit... and have a fun time to boot
That's the kind of thing I mean. There are several wildlife photographers in the world who I think could make great DVD's which would not only inform camera buyers but further promote manufacturers such as Nikon.
Let me give an example of what would be on the DVD. Birds/flight photography. The technology still hasn't been reached where we can fix onto a bird in flight and the camera snaps onto focus and tracks bird across the sea/sky every time, sometimes the camera falls asleep and after 5 seconds the bird has gone, it happens. There are so many variables in setting up the camera for this task, what do they recomend and why ? What we don't want is "Here is the continuous focus button, here is the nine points setting" etc etc, that's far too basic. By the way, I do have my own settings and I certainly know the frustration of flight photography and Canon has exactly the same issues. A friend of mine has exactly the same gear except I am Nikon, he is Canon and when I have a focussing problem, he has same problem on same passing bird, we have done many many tests.
So, c'mon someone, earn some mony and make us happy to spend it but not $200.
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