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Columbia Dreamin'

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Posted by John Williams on May 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Columbia Dreamin'
From the end of last week. I'm headed back out for sunset tonight and dawn tomorrow, hope to see some of you out there.
Posted by Mark Hudon on May 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Nice one, John.
Posted by Aaron Ellingsen on May 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Beautiful stuff, sir. Makes me want to be there.
Posted by Mark Windom on May 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Wow! Great color, depth, composition, lighting, etc. I gotta get down there one of these days.
Posted by Sean Bagshaw on May 1, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Absolutely excellent. I'm just back from photographing out there with David Cobb and hope to post some of mine soon. This is brilliant and sets the bar at a whole new level as I'm going through my stuff. Hope I can find something half as good.
Posted by Kosta Koeman on May 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM
John, that is sooooo nice!
Posted by Christopher Mitche on May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Outstanding John. :toast:

I was headed in that direction this morning but turned around feeling a little under the weather. :frown:
Posted by Zack Schnepf on May 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM
She's a beauty! The flowers look great this year, they are already past their prime in some spots though. Beautiful work on this one John.
Posted by Ryan DesJardins on May 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM
VERY nice!
Posted by David Cobb on May 1, 2009 at 6:01 PM
This is just excellent John, love the foreground, the line of 8 mile creek, the light, and those shadows on the hills. I might see you out there, I don't live too far away.

David M. Cobb
Posted by Jeremy Cram on May 1, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Beautiful.
Posted by Kartik Venkatarama on May 1, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Awesome!
Posted by Floris van Breugel on May 1, 2009 at 10:38 PM
That is just excellent.. sublimely beautiful. Way more interesting than the billions of Rowena shots I've seen. You get a little more color and quantity in your flowers than we do in our california ones!
Posted by Cliff Dodge on May 1, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Nice job John. Is this Rowena or the columbia hills? I'll be in the area tomorrow night and the next morning, maybe ill see you. :)
Posted by Erik Lundh on May 1, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I agree that it's an excellent shot. Nice DR range. Did you use a ND filter or did you do a blend or HDR?
Posted by Joseph Campisi on May 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Stellar shot John, excellently composed! Love that foreground especially, adds a lot of texture. Congrats! :toast:
Posted by Kevin Hillegass on May 2, 2009 at 2:21 AM
Really good, John! Man, you've been putting out the hits, lately...

Kevin
Posted by Catherine Reilly on May 2, 2009 at 3:25 AM
Oh! SWEET shot, John! Marvelous comp with great color and placement of landscape features. Great sky to boot. :cool:
Posted by Jack Garrett on May 2, 2009 at 9:09 AM
From the Colorado group, I'll say this is sweeeet!! Nice comp, depth, exposure.

Jack
Posted by Craig Strand on May 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Absolutely Beautiful, John!
Posted by John Williams on May 2, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Thanks all!! I’m back in town, to help celebrate my daughter’s birthday, after a quick trip over to the Columbia Hills last night. I met up with Jesse Estes, and we photographed near where I took the above as the light faded. The sky never developed significant color, but was nevertheless very dramatic. This morning was drizzly and overcast. I would love to have stayed and played, but duty called.

In addition to meeting Jesse, I had the honor of meeting Kevin McNeal, Adrian Klein, and Marc Adamus. They were leading photo tours of the area. This morning as I was heading out, I ran into Darren White too. Maybe we should have our next PNWNP event in the hills this time of year? :wink:

Sean, knowing your photography I’m sure you’ve got some great stuff and look forward to seeing it!

Christoper, I hope you’re feeling better.

Zack, too true. The lower balsamroot is just on the edge. Fortunately the lupine is really rocking right now.

Cliff this is Dalles Mt. Ranch in the Columbia Hills, in a ravine feeding 8 Mile Creek as David notes.

Erik, glad you asked. I usually try to post shooting info, but had a busy week and wasn’t able to finish this until yesterday. I wanted to post it for those who might be able to catch it before heading over, and didn’t take the time to add the shooting info before heading out.

This is a blend of four shots. Two shots, exposed for the areas in shade, focused near and far for DOF. A third shot was exposed for the sunlit areas, and a fourth for the sky.

(In the spirit of full disclosure, something I always like to do, the sky was shot at around 4pm and the earth a little after 6pm. I did this because the clouds had disappeared just as the good light began the two prior days. Sure enough, it happened again and I needed this “insurance” shot to get the clouds. I'd like to post this in one of the galleries, but am wrestling with the fact that the sky was taken at a different time then the rest. Would it fit in ESS, or should it go into Photoart? Any thoughts appreciated.)

Nikon D80
Nikon 12.0-24.0 mm f/4.0 at 12 mm
1/20, 1/45, &1/180 sec at f/16.0 and ISO 400
Posted by Marc Dilley on May 2, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Beautiful, John!
Posted by Jason Denham on May 2, 2009 at 4:30 PM
John,

A great shot for sure--you should be proud of this image.

I've noticed that you have definately figured out how to properly blend different exposures/focus points to create a final master piece. Can you shed some light on how the blending is done--because it is very seemless. Perhaps a there's articles written on this, and a link in that direction would be helpful and appreciated.

Again, great work.

Thanks,
Jason Denham
Posted by Greg Vaughn on May 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Outstanding photo, John. I hope the good bloom lasts a few more days - I aim to be in Dallas Mountain Road area sometime between Monday and Wednesday.
Posted by John Williams on May 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Jason, the advantage of blending is that you can really expand the power of your camera. The disadvantage is that it can take a _lot_ of time.

At some point I need to write up a detailed description, but in brief I make sure the images have an area of overlap, and are aligned. I then stack them as layers in Photoshop and lasso a selection of the areas I want; using the difference mode in Photoshop to make sure the selection follows areas that are the same. I then turn the selection into a mask, so that only the parts I want are showing.

The zone of overlap for focus blending needs to be done in camera; essentially you focus carefully so that the focus has at least a little overlap between the two. The overlap for dynamic range is done in Photoshop.

If you are only blending for dynamic range, you may not need to align the images. However, remember that the field of view changes as you change your focus point, so if you are blending for depth of field you will need to do this. (You’ll also need to align the images if you, like me, bump your tripod now and again.) To align the images, I use Photoshop’s Auto-align feature when it will work. When it fails (for example if you have a lot of flowers blowing in the wind), I use PTAssembler. PTAssembler is more complicated and has a learning curve, but can align almost anything without parallax once you learn how to use it.

To achieve a zone of overlap for dynamic blending, I use a curves layer for each image to match the area I want to overlap. For example in the above photo the darker photo was exposed for the sunny areas, and the brighter photo for the flowers. In the darker photo there was a lot of plugging and shadow noise in the flowers, and the brighter areas were blown in the lighter photo. I used curves to get them to match just below the shadow that runs across the middle of the photo. I used a curve to brighten the darker layer about half way towards the brighter layer, and then an additional curve to move the brighter layer to meet the darker layer. For this second curve, I usually make the adjustments to the red, green, and blue curves individually to maximize the match.

It takes a bit of Photoshop experience for all of this to make sense. If it is all confusing, I’ll try and get a detailed, step-by-step, description one of these days. :smile:
Posted by Benjamin Glatt on May 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Wowzers John, this is superb! Just had to stop by and say congrats on such a nice shot :toast:
Posted by David Cobb on May 3, 2009 at 1:54 AM
Thanks for the description John, a lot of work, but a big pay-off. I must say, you have the patience of a dark-ages monk to put this photo together. I keep coming back to it, to admire the beauty.

You should post it in ESS.

David M. Cobb
Posted by Adrian Klein on May 3, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Very very nice image John! Glad you got up there with no wind which unfortunately I did not get. It was pleasure to meet you as well. I am sure I will see you in the field again!
Posted by Zack Schnepf on May 4, 2009 at 12:52 PM
I hope you post this in ESS as well, everyone should get to see this beauty John!
Posted by Jay Defigh on May 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM
What other superlative can I add....this shows thought and mastery in all stages of the process, from capture to pp. As far as it being photo art, I would say that the fact you added a sky from another time would classify it as such. I wonder what other people think. I think it would still be a great photo with no clouds, though, imho.
Posted by Chris Hodney on May 4, 2009 at 4:28 PM
this is fantastic. Great composition, exposure, focus...the works. It does look just a bit on the yellow side on my monitor.
Posted by Jason Denham on May 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
John,

Thanks for writting the overview of how you processed this image. I'll have to do some experimenting with this when I get time. It really does sound like (and look like) a powerful tool. Also, which Dan Margolis book would you recommend for learning to work in the LAB color space? I thought I saw where you suggested one of his books but I can't find that comment to verify.

Again, thanks for your time.
Posted by John Williams on May 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Jason,

No problem, hope you have fun playing with blending. The book is called The Canyon Conundrum, and it really helped me understand color and Photoshop much better.