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OT: Printer Paper.

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Posted by Jim Casteel on May 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM
So, the other day I was browsing Craigslist and there was a come and get it on a Epson 7600 UltraChrome. It said it had some clogging issues. Come to find out the guy just didn't know what he was doing.. There was a firmware update to fix the clogging issues with the printer so now i have a fully functional Epson 7600 for free!!!! Better yet it has only had about 200 feet of paper run through it in its lifetime.

I know that paper choices seem to always be what the photographer likes but I am looking for some recommendations. I have a couple requests for prints that will be framed behind glass and maybe a plaque mount or two, all of them are color landscapes so far. I have been trying out a couple different papers and finding I like papers similar to a Moab Lasal photo luster or the photo matte. What papers do you prefer for prints that will be put behind glass? Which ones for plaque mounting?

Thanks for the help :toast:
Posted by Chris Rice on May 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Jim;

I have had great luck with Epson Premium Semigloss rolls. You have to use Photo Black Cartridges with it FYI. Moab Kayenta (LaSal now) is great Matte paper but remember everytime you want to switch over from MK to PK you must run the Black Ink Conversion Kit, which uses about $100 worth of ink. Some other matte papers to consider are Epson Enhanced Matte, InkPress Duo Matte 80, and Arches Infinity for PhotoBoxes.

Have fun with that printer! Welcome to the Epson Ink Buyers Club! :biggrin:
Posted by Mel Ladewig on May 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
With the 7600 you'll have to be conscious of swapping the black inks. Its expensive to round trip. So choose a paper type (photo or matte) and stick with it. If you've got a smaller pigment printer like an R1800, 2200 etc, then you could try samples there to see what you like.

For a long time I printed on fine art matte papers like Epson Velvet Fine Art. I like these behind glass because there is only one set of reflections, they feel nice in the hand and they are were easier for me to print on. However I now print on Ilford Gold Fibre Silk. The reason I like the GFS paper (and other Baryta papers) is that deeper colors will remain distinct on this paper where they cannot on a matte paper. Although the GFS paper requires the photo black ink, I would not describe the surface as glossy. Even though the Baryta papers are marketed to B&W inkjet printing, I like them for color.

But there are alot of papers out there and in the end you'll have to decide for yourself what you want to print onto. The best way is to get the sampler packs from as many sources as you can (Atlex carries lots of samplers) to narrow down what sort of look and feel you want, then pin it down to the finalists.
Posted by Chris Rice on May 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Hey Mel, isn't the 7600 series a dye-based system?
Posted by Jim Casteel on May 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Chris, One model of the 7600 is dye based inks but the one I have is the Ultrachrome inks.
Posted by Chris Rice on May 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Jim;

good deal, yeah I recall that now... turns out we have to place a big order for 220s... not looking forward to that :mad:
Posted by Jim Casteel on May 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM
I don't know if it is legit but ebay has what they claim as EPSON NIB 220's for $350-$399 for the entire set. I didn't think that was too bad.

Posted by Mel Ladewig on May 11, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Chris,

You can use the 110ml carts instead or can mix and match 220/110 as usage dictates. I know I use light gray and cyan faster than the other inks and I'd probably buy those in 220 if I had opted for the 4880 instead of the 3800.

Anyways, the majority of 7600/9600 are ultrachrome printers but there are some dye models around. I've just never seen one so I assume when someone is talking about a 7600 that they're referring to the ultrachrome version.

And just be glad you don't have to buy the 700mL X 11 carts for the new 7900.
Posted by Chris Rice on May 11, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Yes the light mag and light black (and now LLK) go nearly 2x (maybe 3x) faster on this 7880 - and older 2200s. Its a conspiracy dammit. I know they say say new-in-box, but they could be third party-inks. Just be warned that non-Epson third-party inks will void any warranty if anything happens (I'm pretty sure of this). Also I've heard third party inks not mimicking Epson color. And the latest are the faux inks with the genuine looking hologram etc. That price Jim sounds suspect for 220s but not for 110s. They could also be expired.

edit: oh thats for the 7600? those could be cheaper then the -800 and -880 series units.
Posted by John Klotz on May 12, 2009 at 1:59 AM
Another fan of Ilford GFS! Love how it prints on my 3800. I also like Epson Premium Luster and getting ready to try some of the Moab papers,
Posted by Nat Coalson on May 14, 2009 at 1:34 AM
Photo black ink; Ilford Galerie Gold Fibre Silk paper.