I've been running Windows Vista 64 and CS4 for awhile now, and I noticed an incredible increase in speed in all functions from the get go (over windows xp 32).
With Microsoft offering the Windows 7 RC for people to use, and I being a bit of a computer geek and willing to take risks decided to give it a try. I created a dual boot system so I didn't wipe out my old Vista and data, but now I'm exclusively using Windows 7.
On the operating system side, it seems much faster to boot than previous versions of windows.
I feel this is a greatly improved OS. The taskbar is greatly improved and is something that is very fuctional and useful now.
The new "libraries" for photos, music, documents are nice to keep track of files on multiple hard drives.
I haven't dug into every new feature, but overall things seem to be running faster. I never had any issues with Vista 64, so I can't say that I was one of those Vista users who regreted the upgrate. It always worked very well for me.
Now, on to CS4 and Windows 7. It may be my imagination, but I believe CS4 is completing tasks faster in Windows 7. The first thing that blew my mind was how quickly the software started up and was ready to go. I haven't actually timed it, but it seems to be taking about half the time to load up. I suppose I could sit there with a stop watch and try to time everything, but I guess if I feel it is faster...then it is (at least from my perspective)!
I've had absolutely no issues running any of my software on Windows 7. I think it going to be an excelent platform to work with CS4, Lightroom, or any other software you will be using with your photography.
Bottom line, from my perspective, it's faster, easier to use, has greater functionality, and CS4 runs like a dream with it. So, I wouldn't be afraid of upgrading when the final version comes out, in fact I would recommend it for XP and Vista users. You Apple guys, well, you keep doing what you do (you can't argue with success).
My hardware: AMD 2.1 GHz Triple Core Processor w/4GB RAM
Just out of curiousity, there was a problem with early releases of Vista knocking out a custom monitor profile, if you were using one. Have you seen that with Windows 7? It was part of the reason why I never made the jump to Vista intially, although I understand this has been resolved more recently.
We bought a new laptop with vista and CS4 and about a year ago. I have two issues I have not been able to fix and have always wondered if Vista is causing the issues. We did not have these problems when using XP and CS2 so I hope you may have some insight. I have contacted Adobe but yet to get any ideas/fixes, but still trying.
1. When CS4 is started it gives me an error stating the video is out dated and certain propertied in CS 4 are not enabled. I have tried to upgrade the video to my lap top and external flat screen but it still happens.
2. I shoot rodeos and when using the flash the animal’s eyes are always white so I use the clone tool to repair the eyes. Occasionally I will click on the eye I want to repair and suddenly the tool will shoot a line (goes in various directions) off the picture, the only fix I have found that works is to shut down CS4 and restart. Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks
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Dan, I've had no problems with the monitor profile in Vista 64 or Windows 7 64. I use the Sypder Pro to calibrate and everything seems to work and load up perfectly.
John, check often with the manufacturers of your favorite plug-ins, because more area making 64 bit versions. I really only use one plug-in PK Sharpener, and they have a 64-bit version.
Tony, it may be that the laptop video card isn't capable of supporting OpenGL, or the drivers aren't effective so Photoshop recognizes it. I've found that to be the case on some laptops. That being said, I believe, even if your laptop does support that driver, the message will come up in some cases and all you have to do is go to Edit > Preferences > Performance and see if the Open GL checkbox is available to be checked. If it is not, either the video card doesn't support OpenGL (or the version that CS4 is looking for), or the drivers just aren't clicking with CS4. I'm sorry, but I don't know the solution, other than somehow upgrading the laptops video capability.
I've never seen your second issue. I don't know if that's a Vista thing or what, but it sounds very annoying.
As I mentioned, I haven't had any issues with Windows 7 so far, but I didn't with Visat 64 either.
Thanks Ryan I will check that out tonight, your right about the second issue being annoying. If I hear back from Adobe I will let everyone know what I found out, thanks again
I know taht you can't run 64 bit software on 32-bit systems but is there any way to run older software on the 64 bit systems? I have way too much software running on XP to just dump it and there is no way I can afford to update it all. Is there a way to set up a dual mode that runs both 32 and 64 bit applications?
Larry - I think you have that backwards. You can run 32-bit software on 64-bit systems. Not the other way around. The exceptions are things like plug-ins for PS. A 32-bit plug-in has to be run in 32-bit PS. So you can still run it, since PS comes with both versions you can install.
If you run a 32-bit app on a 64-bit system, each application will still only be able to access ~4 GB of memory, since they are still limited to 32-bits. The OS, though, will still be able to use the other memory for other applications.
Thanks David, I was typing too fast and "can't" came out as "can", so that part of my question was reversed. But I think you answered my question anyway. So as long as I don't try to mix old plugins with new 64 bit CS4 I'll be OK and my other legacy software will still run fine alhtough only use 4 GB memory. I am assuming that actions are different since they are merely a set of instructions for CS4. So if I am using Canon's Easy Photo Print Pro with CS4 on a 64 bit machine and OS then I'd have to use it with a 32 bit version of CS4 and not the 64 bit version? Basically you can't mix a 32 bit plugin with the 64 bit software?
Basically you can't mix a 32 bit plugin with the 64 bit software?
That's correct.
Although there IS a chance that some plug-ins that essentially launch their own programs will still work. This is purely speculation but if they launch a separate program, they aren't really a "plug-in"....it's just an action in PS that launches an entirely separate 32-bit program. Canon EPPP might be like that - I really don't know - but it is launched as an action I think, so I'm curious.
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12 repliesWith Microsoft offering the Windows 7 RC for people to use, and I being a bit of a computer geek and willing to take risks decided to give it a try. I created a dual boot system so I didn't wipe out my old Vista and data, but now I'm exclusively using Windows 7.
On the operating system side, it seems much faster to boot than previous versions of windows.
I feel this is a greatly improved OS. The taskbar is greatly improved and is something that is very fuctional and useful now.
The new "libraries" for photos, music, documents are nice to keep track of files on multiple hard drives.
I haven't dug into every new feature, but overall things seem to be running faster. I never had any issues with Vista 64, so I can't say that I was one of those Vista users who regreted the upgrate. It always worked very well for me.
Now, on to CS4 and Windows 7. It may be my imagination, but I believe CS4 is completing tasks faster in Windows 7. The first thing that blew my mind was how quickly the software started up and was ready to go. I haven't actually timed it, but it seems to be taking about half the time to load up. I suppose I could sit there with a stop watch and try to time everything, but I guess if I feel it is faster...then it is (at least from my perspective)!
I've had absolutely no issues running any of my software on Windows 7. I think it going to be an excelent platform to work with CS4, Lightroom, or any other software you will be using with your photography.
Bottom line, from my perspective, it's faster, easier to use, has greater functionality, and CS4 runs like a dream with it. So, I wouldn't be afraid of upgrading when the final version comes out, in fact I would recommend it for XP and Vista users. You Apple guys, well, you keep doing what you do (you can't argue with success).
My hardware: AMD 2.1 GHz Triple Core Processor w/4GB RAM
Now if only my favorite plugins would be upgraded for 64 bit so I can use them!
1. When CS4 is started it gives me an error stating the video is out dated and certain propertied in CS 4 are not enabled. I have tried to upgrade the video to my lap top and external flat screen but it still happens.
2. I shoot rodeos and when using the flash the animal’s eyes are always white so I use the clone tool to repair the eyes. Occasionally I will click on the eye I want to repair and suddenly the tool will shoot a line (goes in various directions) off the picture, the only fix I have found that works is to shut down CS4 and restart. Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks
tw
John, check often with the manufacturers of your favorite plug-ins, because more area making 64 bit versions. I really only use one plug-in PK Sharpener, and they have a 64-bit version.
Tony, it may be that the laptop video card isn't capable of supporting OpenGL, or the drivers aren't effective so Photoshop recognizes it. I've found that to be the case on some laptops. That being said, I believe, even if your laptop does support that driver, the message will come up in some cases and all you have to do is go to Edit > Preferences > Performance and see if the Open GL checkbox is available to be checked. If it is not, either the video card doesn't support OpenGL (or the version that CS4 is looking for), or the drivers just aren't clicking with CS4. I'm sorry, but I don't know the solution, other than somehow upgrading the laptops video capability.
I've never seen your second issue. I don't know if that's a Vista thing or what, but it sounds very annoying.
As I mentioned, I haven't had any issues with Windows 7 so far, but I didn't with Visat 64 either.
tw
Larry
If you run a 32-bit app on a 64-bit system, each application will still only be able to access ~4 GB of memory, since they are still limited to 32-bits. The OS, though, will still be able to use the other memory for other applications.
That's correct.
Although there IS a chance that some plug-ins that essentially launch their own programs will still work. This is purely speculation but if they launch a separate program, they aren't really a "plug-in"....it's just an action in PS that launches an entirely separate 32-bit program. Canon EPPP might be like that - I really don't know - but it is launched as an action I think, so I'm curious.