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Muntjac

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Posted by Mike Andrews on July 1, 2009 at 5:13 AM
Muntjac
All and Any comments welcome

Nikon D300 with Nikon 80-400 mm/F4-5.6 at F5.7. 1/250 sec, ISO 400, EV -0.67. Cropped from LS to Portrait.
Posted by Robert Lawrence on July 1, 2009 at 5:24 AM
Very difficult lighting conditions Mike. I quite like the overall effect. I would prefer a bit more detail in the shadow side of face though that could be the works monitor. Is this a captive animal (ear nick looks like its been notched)?

Robert
Posted by Mike Andrews on July 1, 2009 at 5:31 AM
Hi Robert

No, it's a wild animal in the Lea Valley Regional Park.

Lighting was very harsh - at the time I had recently taken up wildlife photography, and just took the camera out come rain or shine. This was taken on a very bright day in June at 11.05 am.

I now tend to go out early or late, but still like this picture despite all that because it reminds me that I was 25 feet from this animal. Sometimes it's just the "being there" that is enjoyable. Pics are a bonus.

Thanks for the comment. :toast:
Posted by Brett Lewis on July 1, 2009 at 5:33 AM
Hi Mike,

I just had a quick tweak of this image using shadows and highlights in PS and it really does make a difference to the detail obtained form the lighting conditions. As a starting block I adjusted each to about 30-35%. I think if you have another tweak with this it will make for a great portrait of a shy and illusive deer species.

Brett :toast:
Posted by Paul Ashton on July 1, 2009 at 5:34 AM
The composition is excellent. The face appearing from the shadow into the bright sunshine is beautifully captured. Highlights in the surrounding foliage make a super frame. The difficult lighting conditions have been used to great effect.

First class

Posted by Mike Andrews on July 1, 2009 at 5:48 AM
Thanks Brett

I had never used Shadows and Highlights before, and hadn't even realised it was there.

Great improvement.

Thanks
Posted by David Sewell on July 1, 2009 at 6:12 AM
This second one is technically a much improved picture, but somehow I prefer your original posting, it seems to have a lot more atmosphere to it.

David
Posted by Paul Ashton on July 1, 2009 at 6:35 AM
The lighting on the second image is incorrect and whilst we can clearly see more detail much of the distinctivenes and impact is now lost.
Posted by Brett Lewis on July 1, 2009 at 6:53 AM
I have to agree with this I'm afraid.. Whilst it might have increased the detail from the shadows it doesn't look as it did on my screen when I processed this small jpeg. The atmospheric lighting of the shadow was still retained, but has been lost somewhat in your 2nd posting. The 30-35% was only a starting block and not a literal translation of what needed to be done. You might need to go back to the RAW and work on it a little more but at least now you know it is possible to bring up the detail in shadows etc.. As I said, there is a nice image in there just waiting to be gleaned from a little post processing.. Good luck and look forward to more.

Brett :toast: :wavey:
Posted by Ray on July 1, 2009 at 7:04 AM
The first post has it, much more natural re lighting, still an excellent capture, well seen and taken.
Posted by Mike Andrews on July 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Posting on this forum seems to highlight more my lack of knowledge of Photo-manipulation packages than it does my photographic skills.

I have tried this with just 25% in the shadows and 0% highlights. As you pointed out Brett, the detail is there (especially in large format), but manipulation is required to show it at its best.

Thanks for the continued advice fellas.
Posted by John Robinson on July 1, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Cracking shot whatever.No.2 for me I think.
JohnR
Posted by Graeme Lee on July 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Nice to be treated to this no doubt. I used to get very frustarted knowing that my image was good, but I was not getting the most out of it during post processing. There are some good articles around showing various ways of image processing......... google away

:toast:
Posted by Christopher Wilson on July 2, 2009 at 5:02 AM
"...to highlight more my lack of knowledge of Photo-manipulation packages than it does my photographic skills."

Personally I think it is important to get the balance right. Knowing how to get the best out of the image through post processing is an important skill to master but it is equally, or more, important to get the best you can when taking the shot.

In these circumstances I would look to balance out the lighting with just a small burst of fill flash. With harsh directional lighting this can often be the only way of getting enough detail in the shadow areas.