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Color temperature II

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Posted by Cynthia Spence on July 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Color temperature II
Hi again,

As John suggested I've posted a sample. The first is set at "standard" the second is standard on with "landscape"...to me the sky looks unatural...I have others that look similar, and are taken in bright sunlight.
Posted by Cynthia Spence on July 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM
the second one...
Posted by Cynthia Spence on July 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Now that I look at them on my work screen...looks a little better...more blue, less green...how does it look on those of you who have calibrated screens?
Posted by Nat Coalson on July 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM
I think the first one looks more natural.
Posted by John Mumaw on July 1, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Ditto what Nat said.
Not seeing any cyan issues as you noted in your previous post.
Glad you posted the samples. I suspected that this wasn't a software issue for some reason.
Posted by Gene Lugo on July 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Cynthia, it doesn't seem to me that you are dealing with a color temperature issue, as much as you are dealing with in camera preset shooting modes, which affect color balance (a bigger issue than color temperature), contrast and color saturation. Being a bit of a purist, I would stay away from those "scene-based" presets and dial down the saturation, contrast, sharpening to zero, and use a neutral, as opposed to vivid, color mode (that's what you would find on a Nikon, I am not familiar with Canon in this respect). This way, you minimize strange colors, the chance that you might clip a color or two, and retain as much control over the final product as possible. Even better yet, shoot raw, which only retains basic color information such as white balance as shot, and do everything in post processing. Incidentally, the only difference I see between the two images is an over saturation of the colors, noticeably in the second picture with the landscape shooting mode turned on. You can fix this if you back off the saturation in the hue/saturation adjustment in Photoshop.
Posted by Aleksei Saunders on July 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Cynthia,

The landscape setting is always a crapshoot with lots of blue sky. As Gene suggests - I'd keep it in standard or neutral while shooting and then play with them in either Lightroom or Camera RAW.

Some images benefit from the Landscape setting, sometimes you just need to tweak the hue settings for blue (in the camera profile tab) and other times it is way off the mark. I find the same thing happens with the Portrait setting with the 5dmkII, some faces get way too orange for some reason.
Posted by Mel Ladewig on July 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I don't particularly like the way Canon's "Landscape" setting pumps the sky towards the cyan either. Its frustrating because it seems like you need the Landscape setting to get good clean red/orange/yellow, but you pay for it with weird looking blue skies.
Posted by Gene Lugo on July 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Mel, that's what selection tools are for. As I posted earlier, this kind of shot should be done with as little in-camera processing as possible, and use photoshop to get the "look" you want - you will be happier with the results. Incidentally, I do not see any cyan in the sky in the landscape version, only deeper, darker blue in the sky, and some of the orange in the rock on the left appears to be clipped since it lacks the texture of the standard version. In all, the standard looks better to me.
Posted by Carson Wilcox on July 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Just as a matter of practice I shot with the camera set to neutral and deal with any color temp issues in photoshop, I leave as little as possible for the camera to make decisions for me.
Posted by Mark Metternich on July 31, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Both look good to me. I do take blue down in ACR though to make more room for other colors.