Posted by Robert Dayton on August 8, 2009 at 2:07 PM
On 8-6-09 I posted an image on John Day Fossil Beds National
Monument in the ES&S gallery. I received many help suggestions mainly about sharpening and in one instance about brightening. Consequently, I reworked the image and reposted only to find
that the exact old or first post came up again. I've had this problem before when I've tried to repost. Is the first posting that's in the cache or browser going to forever take precedence
not allowing the revised image to be posted? Why does this
happen, and how do I go about correcting it? Thank you for
your help.
You cannot replace the original image. You can, however, post you re-worked image in a reply. Be sure to Edit the thread's title to add "w/repost" or something similar.
-P
Posted by Lon Overacker on August 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Robert,
I compared the two images in different windows side by side and it does look to me like the repost is slightly brighter and slightly more contrast (I didn't check for sharpness though as I write this.) It's subtle, but I'd say they're two different images. Of course, I can't see your originals side by side on your monitor.
I don't know about caching, but I would think that if you're uploading to the NPN server and you provide the same file name, it should overwrite... BUT now that I think about it, if you are uploading (as opposed to linking) they might have something in the application that prevents someone from re-uploading a comletely different image. so, maybe it is possible that your image didn't get overwritten.
My suggestion would be to upload an image that has a different file name and that would erase all questions.
If you're uploading the exact same file name and the re-worked image is significantly different, I would ask about color management. If you're displaying in Internet Explorer, it isn't color managed and if you're not converting the image to the sRGB profile, it may look good and different on your computer and PS, but may display differently on the web and hence NPN.
I suppose you might be able to replace the original post with another image, if you linked to the original image on another site instead of uploading it to the NPN server. I'm thinking as long as the new upload didn't change the link name, the new image would appear upon a refresh of the page. Not sure about this though.
I'm thinking one reason why NPN retains the original and places the reworked image in the reply section is so comments pertaining to the original, match accordingly. It might be confusing to read comments that don't necessarily correlate to the above image
That said, I like the added contrast and additional sharpening you added to the reworked image. Nice work!
I just tried to edit my 'Surrounded' post a few minutes ago. There is no way to change the image as it is dislayed. What this tells me is that the link to the image (which is on my website) is stored in the NPN database and cannot be overwritten. I think the only way I could post a different image to replace the first one would be to save the replacement image under the same name so that the link would still be valid..
I have tried to replace images that are stored on the NPN server, and it cannot be done. You can include a jpg in a subsequent comment, as I described earlier.
On another note: Replacing the original image with a rework, especially if comments have already been made, would be very confusing to other folks because the comments would no longer be applicable.
The foregoing is my HO, and is not subject to any warranty, either expressed or implied.
Discussion
4 repliesMonument in the ES&S gallery. I received many help suggestions mainly about sharpening and in one instance about brightening. Consequently, I reworked the image and reposted only to find
that the exact old or first post came up again. I've had this problem before when I've tried to repost. Is the first posting that's in the cache or browser going to forever take precedence
not allowing the revised image to be posted? Why does this
happen, and how do I go about correcting it? Thank you for
your help.
You cannot replace the original image. You can, however, post you re-worked image in a reply. Be sure to Edit the thread's title to add "w/repost" or something similar.
-P
I compared the two images in different windows side by side and it does look to me like the repost is slightly brighter and slightly more contrast (I didn't check for sharpness though as I write this.) It's subtle, but I'd say they're two different images. Of course, I can't see your originals side by side on your monitor.
I don't know about caching, but I would think that if you're uploading to the NPN server and you provide the same file name, it should overwrite... BUT now that I think about it, if you are uploading (as opposed to linking) they might have something in the application that prevents someone from re-uploading a comletely different image. so, maybe it is possible that your image didn't get overwritten.
My suggestion would be to upload an image that has a different file name and that would erase all questions.
If you're uploading the exact same file name and the re-worked image is significantly different, I would ask about color management. If you're displaying in Internet Explorer, it isn't color managed and if you're not converting the image to the sRGB profile, it may look good and different on your computer and PS, but may display differently on the web and hence NPN.
Hope this helps.
Lon
I'm thinking one reason why NPN retains the original and places the reworked image in the reply section is so comments pertaining to the original, match accordingly. It might be confusing to read comments that don't necessarily correlate to the above image
That said, I like the added contrast and additional sharpening you added to the reworked image. Nice work!
I have tried to replace images that are stored on the NPN server, and it cannot be done. You can include a jpg in a subsequent comment, as I described earlier.
On another note: Replacing the original image with a rework, especially if comments have already been made, would be very confusing to other folks because the comments would no longer be applicable.
The foregoing is my HO, and is not subject to any warranty, either expressed or implied.
-P