A final Red Deer Stag, I have been struggling with the processing on this one, today I spent some time at the Adobe seminars and talking to the demonstrators at the Canon Pro Photo Solutions show and decided to have another go when I got home...
Would be interested to know how you feel about this, it was very difficult to pull out any contrast in the stag, tackled this using the adjustment brush with auto mask selected in ACR (knowing how to use it properly makes a huge difference)
Love the image Phil but have to say I really don't like those flare spots.
Robert
Posted by eric weight on October 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Well I've been coming on here for a couple of years now and I can honestly say that this is the first time that I have been able to pick fault with one of yours Phil. Those flare spots and the beam through the head - I just hate them. Take those out and you would be left with a cracking shot. You've even caught the steam coming off its back. Sorry, I feel guilty now , I'm going to log off. Eric
Hey no problem... thats why this forum is so useful... I actually liked the flare and the beam which is why I spent a lot of time trying to process it, best of all I do have images without those by changing position slightly... and with my new found knowledge should be able to process those a lot better than I was...
Posted by David Lloyd on October 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Hello Phil,
For me the flare is OK, and I don't mind it at all, only that the bottom flare is greenish though. Sorry, being a bit picky. I think it's a good catch
OK, an image from a slightly different PoV, eliminating the flare etc. A little bit further back and just avoiding the rising sun, still have to refine the processing.....
I have to agree with Eric I'm afraid. I really don't like the flare spots or beam crossing the deer. Without those I think it would be a really nice image. But hey it will give you some practice with your new found knowledge. Think I could definitely do with some processing tips.
Posted by Paul Rosser on October 28, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Wonderfull Stuff!!!
Paul
Posted by Graeme Lee on October 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM
I actually prefer the first image Phil. It's different and it captures the atmosphere well which I think the second image doesn't somehow.
Each to their own and all that. Good skills
Posted by Paul Hobson on October 28, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Hi Phil
the beam as it comes from the sky is super but not as it crosses its head, the rest though is very nice
I am going to buck ( sorry ) the trend and go for the 1st shot
Posted by Phil Morgan on October 28, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Love the beam but not keen on the flare. Another vote for Ver 1, but without the spots
Phil.
Posted by eric weight on October 29, 2009 at 2:12 AM
What did I tell you - it's all a matter of opinion anyway.
If your new processing technique can do the same for the second that it did for the first, it would be spot on for me. I notice that the colour is radically different on the second. It is red as opposed to yellow; is that down to the processing or did the light change with your position?
Probably a combination of both, the WB is set to the same on both, i had moved a fraction to the left and a bit further back....
All the best
Phil
Posted by TOMFINLEY on October 29, 2009 at 5:44 AM
Like these shots but definitely prefer the first - totally natural look.
Posted by Kim Connolly on October 29, 2009 at 5:45 AM
Nice images but prefer the first.
Posted by David Kjaer on October 29, 2009 at 6:00 AM
Hi Phil
Prefer the first even though I don't like the flare spots - very nice!
David
Posted by Fran French on October 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Hi Phil,
Having taken a number of similar images on that day, I understand the problems with the processing of these, I am still struggling of course
Both images are great and I love the atmosphere, but of the two I also prefer the first for the colour. If the lens flare, and sunbeam across the stags face only was removed, I think it would improve it even more IMHO.
Fran
Posted by Brett Lewis on October 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I think I can echo quite a few comments from above Phil, I too prefer the colours of the first but without the flare..
Brett
Posted by tony flashman on October 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM
First one for me Phil. Love the flare but don't go a great deal on the flare spots.
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Hi,
A final Red Deer Stag, I have been struggling with the processing on this one, today I spent some time at the Adobe seminars and talking to the demonstrators at the Canon Pro Photo Solutions show and decided to have another go when I got home...
Would be interested to know how you feel about this, it was very difficult to pull out any contrast in the stag, tackled this using the adjustment brush with auto mask selected in ACR (knowing how to use it properly makes a huge difference)
All the best
Phil
Robert
For me the flare is OK, and I don't mind it at all, only that the bottom flare is greenish though. Sorry, being a bit picky. I think it's a good catch
--David
All the best
Phil
Paul
Each to their own and all that. Good skills
the beam as it comes from the sky is super but not as it crosses its head, the rest though is very nice
Paul
I am going to buck ( sorry ) the trend and go for the 1st shot
Phil.
If your new processing technique can do the same for the second that it did for the first, it would be spot on for me. I notice that the colour is radically different on the second. It is red as opposed to yellow; is that down to the processing or did the light change with your position?
Probably a combination of both, the WB is set to the same on both, i had moved a fraction to the left and a bit further back....
All the best
Phil
Prefer the first even though I don't like the flare spots - very nice!
David
Having taken a number of similar images on that day, I understand the problems with the processing of these, I am still struggling of course
Both images are great and I love the atmosphere, but of the two I also prefer the first for the colour. If the lens flare, and sunbeam across the stags face only was removed, I think it would improve it even more IMHO.
Fran
Brett
See you Saturday.
Tony
Des
Cheers
Brian
Ian