Posted by Kim Connolly on November 20, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Managed to get really close to both a male and female pheasant - crop for portrait,+ slight sharpening.
1/1600"
F8
Aperture priority
ISO 400
-0.67EV
C & C always welcome
Posted by David Sewell on November 20, 2009 at 8:41 AM
This is a very nice portrait, Kim, but on my monitor, the whites look a little blown. If you use Photoshop try toning the whites (and the beak) down a bit using the highlights part of the shadows/highlights command.
David
Posted by Kim Connolly on November 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Thank you David - have re-done this -hope it seems a little better.
Posted by Fran French on November 20, 2009 at 12:16 PM
A very nice portrait of this pheasant Kim and nice pov. The exposure is always awkward on the whites, but I think the repost is a tad better. Also do I spy a little cloning around the top of the beak?
Well done on getting so close.
Fran
Posted by Kim Connolly on November 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Thanks Fran - no absolutely no cloning at all, very little editing - just the white amendments as suggested by David
Posted by Tim Taylor on November 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Super - those feathers are more like chain mail. So easy to blow those whites in bright lighting.
Tim
Posted by JMACTAVISH on November 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Tricky subject with bright light. Iridescent feathers and wide range in tones from dark shadows to brilliant whites make for compromises.
Don't know what's happening around the upper beak certainly not as defined as I'd expect at f8 and not as defined as the lower beak.
Posted by Kim Connolly on November 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Thank you John for your comment, cannot explain the problems with the photograph. It is strange - I did try to look at your images but was not able to. Almost as strange as your not commenting on any other subjects. However all criticisms are welcome - but are preferable if they are constructive.
Posted by keith mitchell on November 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Hi kim.
Kim this looks good to me,take the point made about the white but hey perfection comes with practise
Cheers Keith.
Posted by JMACTAVISH on November 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Kim,
look a little and you might see that I do comment on images occasionally.
Yours is pretty much a stock type pheasant shot that is neither outstanding nor particularly poor, I've seen worse published and have also seen better. The only thing attracted me to comment on it was the beak.
If you want constructive
Either,
Take it into PS again and using shadow/highlights, adjust the highlights in the region of Amount 90%, Tonal width 45, and Radius 15. This may sound extreme, but it does show that you have details in the highlights. Only problem with using extreme settings like this is that it increases noise and this in turn would mean more PS work etc etc. Final use of the image would determine whether or not it is worth spending a lot of time on
Or.
Wait for more flattering light. Either end of the day for sunny days, or lightly overcast days for middle of the day shots. Shooting either end of the day will also give you options re shooting into light or using it as a side light to create dramatic contrast effects.
If you are not keen on what I'm saying then no problem. I'm as tough on my own shots as I am on any other shots I comment on
Posted by John Robinson on November 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Kim
Oh dear !
Nice fez shot granny !.
Always pain to get the neck right. There is something funny around the beak area though .
See you soon.
Loads of stuff in the garden.
Cheers
John
Posted by Kim Connolly on November 21, 2009 at 3:10 AM
If you want constructive
Either,
Take it into PS again and using shadow/highlights, adjust the highlights in the region of Amount 90%, Tonal width 45, and Radius 15. This may sound extreme, but it does show that you have details in the highlights. Only problem with using extreme settings like this is that it increases noise and this in turn would mean more PS work etc etc. Final use of the image would determine whether or not it is worth spending a lot of time on ......
Thank you John, that is exactly why I go on this site - to get helpful suggestions as to how a shot can be improved, so I appreciate the time and trouble you have taken to comment on this shot. I was disappointed not to have been able to see any of your pheasant pics as I understand they are outstanding.
Thanks again Kim
Posted by Ian Mason on November 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I see literally dozens of these most days as I drive to work, but I don't have a decent shot of one! (come to think of it I don't have any!) Whites look better on repost. I agree the beak looks odd, but I often get funny bits that I can't explain.
Posted by Andy Shepherd on November 24, 2009 at 7:47 AM
Discussion
13 replies1/1600"
F8
Aperture priority
ISO 400
-0.67EV
C & C always welcome
David
Well done on getting so close.
Fran
Tim
Don't know what's happening around the upper beak certainly not as defined as I'd expect at f8 and not as defined as the lower beak.
Kim this looks good to me,take the point made about the white but hey perfection comes with practise
Cheers Keith.
look a little and you might see that I do comment on images occasionally.
Yours is pretty much a stock type pheasant shot that is neither outstanding nor particularly poor, I've seen worse published and have also seen better. The only thing attracted me to comment on it was the beak.
If you want constructive
Either,
Take it into PS again and using shadow/highlights, adjust the highlights in the region of Amount 90%, Tonal width 45, and Radius 15. This may sound extreme, but it does show that you have details in the highlights. Only problem with using extreme settings like this is that it increases noise and this in turn would mean more PS work etc etc. Final use of the image would determine whether or not it is worth spending a lot of time on
Or.
Wait for more flattering light. Either end of the day for sunny days, or lightly overcast days for middle of the day shots. Shooting either end of the day will also give you options re shooting into light or using it as a side light to create dramatic contrast effects.
If you are not keen on what I'm saying then no problem. I'm as tough on my own shots as I am on any other shots I comment on
Oh dear !
Nice fez shot granny !.
Always pain to get the neck right. There is something funny around the beak area though .
See you soon.
Loads of stuff in the garden.
Cheers
John
Either,
Take it into PS again and using shadow/highlights, adjust the highlights in the region of Amount 90%, Tonal width 45, and Radius 15. This may sound extreme, but it does show that you have details in the highlights. Only problem with using extreme settings like this is that it increases noise and this in turn would mean more PS work etc etc. Final use of the image would determine whether or not it is worth spending a lot of time on ......
Thank you John, that is exactly why I go on this site - to get helpful suggestions as to how a shot can be improved, so I appreciate the time and trouble you have taken to comment on this shot. I was disappointed not to have been able to see any of your pheasant pics as I understand they are outstanding.
Thanks again Kim
Second one for me too Kim, nice shot.
Andy...