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Brown bear at dawn

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Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Brown bear at dawn
The whole family is sick so have to stay at home all day. Well..the weather is terrible anyway so I don't mind really. Enough time to get some work done. I found this image taken in Finland from a hide with Danny in it. Until now, I have no idea who smelled so bad. Was it us or was it the bear?

Taken at dawn iso 200 1/200 sec. f/8

Edwin Kats
Posted by PhilH on November 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Hi Edwin.....

OK lot of work already done.... :wink: make the right hand side of the image black and it is great..... not a comp entry but more commercial.

:toast: :wink: :wavey: :toast:
Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Thanks Phil :wavey:

I know what you mean and it crossed my mind. BUT!!!! When you loose half a liter of your own blood you start to halucinate and after a full liter you start to love the mozzy's. So I want to include them as some sort of thank you :biggrin: Could clone out the backlit bilberry.

It's very personal I guess and I like it as it is.

Edwin
Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Better?

Edwin
Posted by PhilH on November 28, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Oh yes... it will still be better if the whole right hand side of the image was black

Apologies I am not trying to antagonise....

:toast: :wavey: :toast:
Posted by Chris O'Reilly on November 28, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Wow! WOW!

The second image is an improvement, Edwin, but both are stunning! Obvious comparisons can be drawn with Migual Lasa's polar bear shot from WPOY but that is only meant as a compliment. Top drawer shot and very different to the usual brown bear stuff. Love it.

Cheers,
Chris
Posted by Liam Pauling on November 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Brilliant shot Edwin, the second has far more impact.

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Posted by Mike Andrews on November 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I must get my eyes sorted - at first I thought this was a shot of the stars!

Very nice Ed :toast:
Posted by Paul Ashton on November 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Originality Edwin is, an all, to rare occurrence but this image comes about as close as one can hope to achieve. Well thought out. The dots to the right are pointless in that they neither add nor do they detract. This no more than the standard we have come to expect from you Edwin yet it remains one to which some of us aspire.
Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Thanks guys :wavey:

@Phil. No need for apologies. It's critiques I'm after. So keep them coming.

Ed
Posted by Des Ong on November 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Ed, a very strong image indeed. But it's left-heavy for me, especially the 2nd one. As a portrait crop (loosing all the RH space) it really shouts. Having said this, the space on the right will be good for double-page spreads.

Des :toast: :toast:
Posted by keith mitchell on November 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Edwin the comments you have got must be useful to you but to me at my level this is superb!!!!
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Keith.
Posted by john macpherson on November 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM
We had a recent discussion about "less is more" and in this case the amount of 'less' you've got here has given this image soooooooooo much more! I think this is a lovely lovely image, its a suggestion of bear and in my book thats way more impressive than....well, simply a bear. Some images burn themsleves into your brain. This is one such image.
Posted by Tim Taylor on November 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Spookily good. :eek:

Tim :toast:
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on November 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Looks like you should stay at home more often Edwin :biggrin:

Would love to see it with a headline and some body text, then it would certainly take off, in a 'different light'
Steve :toast:
Posted by Ian Butler on November 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Great shot Edwin. I really like the highlights. :toast: :toast: :toast:
Posted by Tom_W on November 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Edwin,

If you play with the S&H controls you can get the breath.. Will post an example if you wish.

Cheers

T
Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Thanks everyone :toast: More then I expected really.

@Tom... I think you mean lighten up the shadows? Didn't think of that. Good idea. Thanks.

Edwin
Posted by Chris Johnstone on November 28, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Terrific.

Chris
Posted by Edwin kats on November 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Ok, here we go. Brown bear at dawn the final. Thank you all. Some great idea's.

Edwin
Posted by Lewis Thomson on November 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM

All been said Edwin, cracking shot!

Cheers,

Lewis.
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Posted by David Kjaer on November 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Superb Edwin - No. 2 for me!

David :toast: :toast: :toast:
Posted by Dave Bartlett on November 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Cracking shot. I'd go for the second one for me :toast:
Posted by Andrew Parkinson on November 28, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Brilliant image Ed, beautifully seen and executed. I don't wish to play devils advocate but I think the first image is the best for a couple of reasons. Firstly the leaves act as a counterbalance to the bear and give it a sense of place, they put it in context. Just like Danny's seal image from earlier the more you look at the image the more you see, the more is revealed to the viewer. The leaves/berries give a delightful hint at the dappled light forest surroundings which would be lost by a 'neat freak' approach of simply cloning them out.
Enough with the cloning already.
To get rid of the leaves is too much in my view, what you see in the image reflects what you saw, what you framed and what, I believe should remain in the final image. The later images are too stark, too sterile and seem artificial to me. Fantastic work Ed, and I think it's definitely a comp image, get it entered!!
Posted by Peter Cairns on November 29, 2009 at 5:29 AM
With or without the tweaking, one of the best images I've seen on this forum...ever. Wild Wonders were looking for an image very much like this for the book cover. Had I seen this a month ago, it would most definitely have got used - a cracker.
Pete
Posted by Edwin kats on November 29, 2009 at 5:46 AM
Thank you very much Pete. I feel sorry for myself I'm not on the cover and I will cry for a bit later on BUT I'm really flattered and it's a very very big compliment anyway. Thank you for that.

And thank you Andrew :wavey: And the rest of course, really appreciate it.

Ed
Posted by Phillip Tomkinson on November 29, 2009 at 6:30 AM
Hi Edwin it's the 3rd one for me.

Phil.

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Posted by Ian Haskell on November 29, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Hi Ed,

All three are good. As a preference I may go for number one too.

Ian
Posted by Matt Cole on November 29, 2009 at 7:36 AM
no 3 for me Edwin, but all are great. Very well taken.

Matt
Posted by Rob Ashton on November 29, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Edwin,

This is a great shot. No. 2 & 3 do the job superbly. I would disagree with PhilH on it not being a competition image though.

Rob :toast:
Posted by Fran French on November 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I really love this Edwin, all images are great but version 3 is a stunner. Simply superb.

Fran :toast:
Posted by Han Bouwmeester on November 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Fantastic shot Edwin but you allready new that. And that was just waiting in your archive?!
Posted by Sandra Hendrikse on November 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Wonderful shot. :smile: :smile:
Posted by Ben Gardner on November 29, 2009 at 3:02 PM
First one for me.... absolutely cracking
Posted by David Sewell on November 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Third version for me, but all of them fabulous.

David
Posted by Maggie Campbell on November 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Third for me too. Brilliant Edwin :wavey:
Posted by Alan Bryant on November 29, 2009 at 4:39 PM
3rd for me aswell.

Great looking image
Posted by Ian Mason on November 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Superb! Third one for me.
Posted by Andy Astbury on November 30, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Can see all three now and the 3rd one is my fave :toast:
Posted by Mark Hamblin on November 30, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Breathtaking shot!!
Posted by Edwin kats on December 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Muchos gracias amigos :toast:

Edwin Kats
Posted by Danny Green on December 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Brings back memories mate, beautiful shot one of the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danny :toast: :toast: :toast:

PS AP has joined so watch your back :biggrin: