Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on December 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Hi,
I need some help between this two lenses. Im considering buy one of those and honestly i dont know which one yet. Never tried any Ts Canon lens but theres a "force" that tell me to choose this one. Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advanced.
Posted by Younes Bounhar on December 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM
I think Darwin Wiggett had a comparison on the two lenses either on this forum or on his blog. I would recommend checking it out. If my memory serves me right, the TS-E lens is sharper, but obviously not as flexible as the 16-35 (I think he wasn't overly impressed with the 16-35).
I haven't used the TS-E, but I do own the 16-35. Here's what I can tell you: positives: 1) the auto focus works extremely well and fast 2) the lens is relatively light and easy to carry around 3) the flexibility of the zoom range works well for most grand scenic landscapes
negatives: 1) the 82mm width of the lens means you'll be buying more filters 2) at 16mm - if shooting horizions you'll notice definite barrel distortion and the sharpness and colors drop off at the edges too.
To summarize: if you buy the new TS-E - you'll have sharper images and depth of field, but less flexibility if you don't own another wide angle lens. If the difference in price is more than $600 I'd probably go for the 16-35.
Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on December 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Thanks.
i do own a 16 35 L but the one series. Honestly im a bit disappointing with the sharp and the light loss on the edges. Looking into Lightroom catalog i could see that the focus average on my photos is between 23/25 mm. Its so rare so shoot at 16mm cause i dont like the distortion obtained, unless i really want to distort. I think i have decided witch one im going for.
Posted by Wick Smith on December 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Here's the article that Younes referenced on the comparison with the TS-E:
Posted by Paul DeCesare on December 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Paulo, I have the 16-35mm v. II and am quite happy with it (on a full frame 5D2), because it does have great contrast and flexibility with the zoom. BUT, I do have to correct barrel distortion (easy) and dance around the lousy edges (not so easy). All Canon ultra wide zooms have this, but you really see it on a full frame sensor. Therefore, if edges are important (and they are!), then TS-E is your choice I think!
Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on December 11, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Thanks to all. I just finish to see Darwin´s Widget article. The review he made makes my choice perfectly accepted.
Posted by Younes Bounhar on December 11, 2009 at 9:20 PM
There's one more option you may want to consider: the Nikon 14-24 with the 169.net adapter. The lens is an absolute gem as far as contrast and sharpness, though you cannot use a filter. David Clapp (http://davidclapp.co.uk) has a great article on how he uses it with his Mark 1DS3.
Posted by Darwin Wiggett on December 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Also consider with a TS-E not only do you have control of DOF independent of aperture, better sharpness but you can correct perspective (no more bowing in trees or falling over buildings). And you can make easy seamless panos. I would easily give up a tiny bit of flexibility with the zoom to have all the great creative sontrols of a tilt shift lens. Darwin
I don't know if I'd call it a tiny bit... 16mm is way different from 24mm, which is again, way different from a 35mm. If you need 16mm, then you need 16mm!
I'd say they are completely different tools... hard to compare. Better to just get both (wish I had the TSE too!)
Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on December 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM
One thing Darwin. Let me try to explain the best i can in english. Floris said and very correctly 16 mm is 16mm no doubt, and 35 mm is 35 mm again no doubt. My question is, with the 24 mm TSE is it possible to tilt the lens to get a more wide open angle correct? like the photoshop filter " Perspective" basically. After i have seen a lot of reviews, comparing one to the other, nikon lens with adapter was also one of my first choices and with the help you guys provided i think im going to the 24 TSE.
Posted by Jack Garrett on December 17, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Whats the difference between the 24mm TS-E version 1 and version 2 other than a $900 price boost? Can a person get by with the version 1 and still get good results?
Posted by Darwin Wiggett on December 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM
A person with Version 1 can get great results, I still use the version 1. Paulo, you can make lens perspective corrections with the lens rather than with Photoshop and never alter a pixel.
Darwin
Posted by Jerry Greer on December 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Guys,
The new TS-E 24mm II is leaps and bounds beyond the old version and I had a very sharp copy. The image quality and the build is incredible. We should have my lens review w/ images up on mountaintrailphoto.com on Monday. It's really amazing how sharp this lens is even wide open, it is sharpest at about f/8. Oh, and you can use filters! Edge to edge sharpness is spectacular and it has
no signs of CA. Yes, you read that correctly, NO SIGNS OF CA!
Paulo,
I read a great article about this very thing and it compared images taken with the TS-E using movement to control perspective and using Photoshop with a fixed lens. The TS-E was much more sharp and detailed.
Posted by Tom Nevesely on December 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM
I have the version 1 of the 24mm TS-E and I'm very happy with it. It does suffer from CA but I can live with that. The version 2 is just too expensive for me and on top of that, my Cokin P sized grads wouldn't fit. I'd have to buy a whole new set of 4x6" filters.
My version 1 lens is sharp! Especially at f/8-f/14 where I use it 99% of the time. I love the infinite DOF (when tilted) so much that I'm always disappointed by my zoom lenses - 17-40mm and 24-105mm. Even if shooting at f/16 or f/22 with either zoom, the TS-E, tilted and at f/8, has more DOF and the image appears sharper.
Posted by Jerry Greer on December 21, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on December 26, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Thanks guys! It was very helpful!
Posted by Jerry Greer on January 3, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Paulo,
Have you made a decision? The more I shoot the TS-E 24mmL II the more I don't want to use anything else! It also works great with the EF1.4x extender. Did some more testing in the snow and this lens is just super sharp! Ian Plant and I are planning on testing the Nikon 14-24 against my TS-E 24mmL II just to see how they compare. It would be nice to have the TS-E 17mm also so we could test both ends of the zooms focal length.
Posted by Paulo A.Lopes on January 4, 2010 at 9:22 AM
yes i´ve decided and "she" is coming! hopefully this week Yeah you must compare them, would like to see which lens suits more for landscape photography.
Posted by Jerry Greer on January 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM
There's no question in my mind which is more suited for landscape photography, the TS-E for sure! For me, the ability to control perspective and DOF is key in landscape photography. If it not have been for Canon's TS-E lenses I may still be shooting film. Yes it's slow sometimes but well worth it! Good luck with the new lens.
hi Jerry,
went through the article. I was looking for more practical tips on how to use this lens in the field instead I found only about how the IQ is.
Discussion
20 repliesI need some help between this two lenses. Im considering buy one of those and honestly i dont know which one yet. Never tried any Ts Canon lens but theres a "force"
Thanks in advanced.
I haven't used the TS-E, but I do own the 16-35. Here's what I can tell you: positives: 1) the auto focus works extremely well and fast 2) the lens is relatively light and easy to carry around 3) the flexibility of the zoom range works well for most grand scenic landscapes
negatives: 1) the 82mm width of the lens means you'll be buying more filters 2) at 16mm - if shooting horizions you'll notice definite barrel distortion and the sharpness and colors drop off at the edges too.
To summarize: if you buy the new TS-E - you'll have sharper images and depth of field, but less flexibility if you don't own another wide angle lens. If the difference in price is more than $600 I'd probably go for the 16-35.
i do own a 16 35 L but the one series. Honestly im a bit disappointing with the sharp and the light loss on the edges. Looking into Lightroom catalog i could see that the focus average on my photos is between 23/25 mm. Its so rare so shoot at 16mm cause i dont like the distortion obtained, unless i really want to distort. I think i have decided witch one im going for.
http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0508/dw0508-1.html
I don't know if I'd call it a tiny bit... 16mm is way different from 24mm, which is again, way different from a 35mm. If you need 16mm, then you need 16mm!
I'd say they are completely different tools... hard to compare. Better to just get both (wish I had the TSE too!)
Darwin
The new TS-E 24mm II is leaps and bounds beyond the old version and I had a very sharp copy. The image quality and the build is incredible. We should have my lens review w/ images up on mountaintrailphoto.com on Monday. It's really amazing how sharp this lens is even wide open, it is sharpest at about f/8. Oh, and you can use filters! Edge to edge sharpness is spectacular and it has
no signs of CA. Yes, you read that correctly, NO SIGNS OF CA!
Paulo,
I read a great article about this very thing and it compared images taken with the TS-E using movement to control perspective and using Photoshop with a fixed lens. The TS-E was much more sharp and detailed.
My version 1 lens is sharp! Especially at f/8-f/14 where I use it 99% of the time. I love the infinite DOF (when tilted) so much that I'm always disappointed by my zoom lenses - 17-40mm and 24-105mm. Even if shooting at f/16 or f/22 with either zoom, the TS-E, tilted and at f/8, has more DOF and the image appears sharper.
Read my new lens review by clicking here TS-E 24mm f3.5L II Lens Review
Have you made a decision? The more I shoot the TS-E 24mmL II the more I don't want to use anything else! It also works great with the EF1.4x extender. Did some more testing in the snow and this lens is just super sharp! Ian Plant and I are planning on testing the Nikon 14-24 against my TS-E 24mmL II just to see how they compare. It would be nice to have the TS-E 17mm also so we could test both ends of the zooms focal length.
went through the article. I was looking for more practical tips on how to use this lens in the field instead I found only about how the IQ is.